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Dietary Carbohydrates Impair Healthspan and Promote Mortality

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Re: Dietary Carbohydrates Impair Healthspan and Promote Mortality

#21
As usual, correlation is incorrectly assumed to mean causality.

The summary text says there's causality. A few paragraphs into the study, the text interchangeably uses causality and correlation:

>> found that carbohydrate intake was associated with increased total mortality.

>> By contrast, any type of dietary fat reduced the likelihood of dying.

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I’ve been living a ketogenic lifestyle for a few years now. I go in and out once and a while but seeing the “fat is bad” theory thrown out the window with research like this makes it easier to remain committed. The trouble comes with the way society has been conditioned to have carbs with every meal. Like 90% of the food my peer group eats are surrounded in carbs. Even for a company-wide lunch in the office: the go-t…

I've been on keto (on and off) about 50% of the time in the past 3 years. The worst part is not being able to eat/drink at social events, and dehydration. The best part is never feeling hungry, stable energy levels throughout the day, and not needing to sleep as much. I also tend to binge a lot when off keto...

>I also tend to binge a lot when off keto...

Probably on carbohydrates because that is why everyone here is "on and off".

Re: Dietary Carbohydrates Impair Healthspan and Promote Mortality

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post #11

Note that this is probably not what you are thinking (low-carb, very-low carb or even keto diets are good for your healthspan). The lowest quintile in this study were consuming 46,4% of kcal from carbs (that's about 230 gram of carbs for a 2000 kcal total intake). Not even close to low carb by today's standard in the health blogosphere. The authors make this explicit in the discussion section: >>> However, the absenc…

I think the assumption there is very-low carb (as a macro-nutrient, not "healthy" v "unhealthy") can be better if _lower_ carb demonstrates improved outcomes... ?

Re: Dietary Carbohydrates Impair Healthspan and Promote Mortality

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post #11

Note that this is probably not what you are thinking (low-carb, very-low carb or even keto diets are good for your healthspan). The lowest quintile in this study were consuming 46,4% of kcal from carbs (that's about 230 gram of carbs for a 2000 kcal total intake). Not even close to low carb by today's standard in the health blogosphere. The authors make this explicit in the discussion section: >>> However, the absenc…

> Importantly, a certain amount of carbohydrate is necessary to meet short-term energy demands during physical activity [...]

Why would they make such a claim? Anyone who has done keto and worked out has probably had the experience of doing quite a lot of physical activity while having had no carbohydrate intake at all for half a day before, or more.

Re: Dietary Carbohydrates Impair Healthspan and Promote Mortality

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I’ve been living a ketogenic lifestyle for a few years now. I go in and out once and a while but seeing the “fat is bad” theory thrown out the window with research like this makes it easier to remain committed. The trouble comes with the way society has been conditioned to have carbs with every meal. Like 90% of the food my peer group eats are surrounded in carbs. Even for a company-wide lunch in the office: the go-t…

I've been on keto (on and off) about 50% of the time in the past 3 years. The worst part is not being able to eat/drink at social events, and dehydration. The best part is never feeling hungry, stable energy levels throughout the day, and not needing to sleep as much. I also tend to binge a lot when off keto...

You can drink at events. Stick to soda water and vodka or diet coke and vodka, etc.

Re: Dietary Carbohydrates Impair Healthspan and Promote Mortality

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post #11

Note that this is probably not what you are thinking (low-carb, very-low carb or even keto diets are good for your healthspan). The lowest quintile in this study were consuming 46,4% of kcal from carbs (that's about 230 gram of carbs for a 2000 kcal total intake). Not even close to low carb by today's standard in the health blogosphere. The authors make this explicit in the discussion section: >>> However, the absenc…

> Importantly, a certain amount of carbohydrate is necessary to meet short-term energy demands during physical activity [...] Why would they make such a claim? Anyone who has done keto and worked out has probably had the experience of doing quite a lot of physical activity while having had no carbohydrate intake at all for half a day before, or more.

Half a day of carb restriction wouldn't meaningfully deplete glycogen stores.

Re: Dietary Carbohydrates Impair Healthspan and Promote Mortality

#30

I’ve been living a ketogenic lifestyle for a few years now. I go in and out once and a while but seeing the “fat is bad” theory thrown out the window with research like this makes it easier to remain committed. The trouble comes with the way society has been conditioned to have carbs with every meal. Like 90% of the food my peer group eats are surrounded in carbs. Even for a company-wide lunch in the office: the go-t…

I've been on keto (on and off) about 50% of the time in the past 3 years. The worst part is not being able to eat/drink at social events, and dehydration. The best part is never feeling hungry, stable energy levels throughout the day, and not needing to sleep as much. I also tend to binge a lot when off keto...

Not needing to sleep as much?
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