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Re: ZeroNet: Decentralized websites using Bitcoin crypto and the BitTorrent network

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Show HN: TorrentPeek – Distributed search engines using BitTorrent and SQLite | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14130280 (Apr 2017, 33 comments)

By putting an SQLite database file (.db) inside a torrent, we can query its content -- by prioritizing pieces based on the SQL query -- and quickly peek at the content of the database without downloading it entirely.

Re: ZeroNet: Decentralized websites using Bitcoin crypto and the BitTorrent network

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post #8
post #5

Does anyone else see it as an issue that the decentralized website solution to databases is to create a copy of a SQLite database on every user's machine?

I agree. This is the biggest technological issue for zeronet imo. Every time there's a change to the db you need to download a whole new copy afaik. Ideally you'd use a log based store. To do this you need to fundamentally change your idea for how a website works. With a distributed log store chances are you won't have the same data as another person.

Just a minor correction: if you provide a stable API for querying the database, you can ignore the technological details on the caller side, the website.

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post #10

I'm following the developement of zeronet for the past 3 years. I'm not convinced that it is the final solution to the decentralized internet. A main thing that bothers me is the insane lookup-time for site with a low distribution. The same problem occurs with ipfs btw. It takes up to one minute to find a the correct node when only one node hast the content-hash.

I need to read the IPFS paper but surely there's some kind of DHT to find data?

DHTs are not fast (or secure, but that’s another story).

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post #10

I'm following the developement of zeronet for the past 3 years. I'm not convinced that it is the final solution to the decentralized internet. A main thing that bothers me is the insane lookup-time for site with a low distribution. The same problem occurs with ipfs btw. It takes up to one minute to find a the correct node when only one node hast the content-hash.

I need to read the IPFS paper but surely there's some kind of DHT to find data?

Right, and finding rare content in that DHT is going to take a while.

Re: ZeroNet: Decentralized websites using Bitcoin crypto and the BitTorrent network

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post #5

Does anyone else see it as an issue that the decentralized website solution to databases is to create a copy of a SQLite database on every user's machine?

PouchDB is the correct solution here.

Thanks for pointing that out

Re: ZeroNet: Decentralized websites using Bitcoin crypto and the BitTorrent network

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Interest in decentralized web solutions seem to be on the rise. I wonder why and if they have any real world benefits for me as a publisher?

All the stated benefits are non-issues for me:

* Uncensored

I never been censored.

* No hosting costs

I serve hundreds of thousands of users per month for something like $20.

* Always accessible

Just like hosting costs, my downtime is negligible.

Re: ZeroNet: Decentralized websites using Bitcoin crypto and the BitTorrent network

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post #29

Interest in decentralized web solutions seem to be on the rise. I wonder why and if they have any real world benefits for me as a publisher? All the stated benefits are non-issues for me: * Uncensored I never been censored. * No hosting costs I serve hundreds of thousands of users per month for something like $20. * Always accessible Just like hosting costs, my downtime is negligible.

>I never been censored.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...

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