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Re: Why pens have rubbery grips

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How is this a thing that needs explaining?

Try actually reading the paper. The analysis is actually quite compelling.

I did read the paper and I'm not saying the analysis isn't compelling. I'm saying it is obvious and does not need a paper to be explained.

Re: Why pens have rubbery grips

#22
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Are there any smartphones that have a rubber coating? Something akin to the Thinkpad lid coating. I use a rubbery case, buy that's something else. That got me to thinking. Why doesn't Lenovo cash on Thinkpad brand with a smartphone line that would be branded as such. It could use the same rubber coating and maybe titanium skeleton or something. Maybe I'm just not aware that they indeed have such a thing.

Apple made (makes?) a thin, silicone-coated case for the iPhone. It was monumentally annoying. The extra grippiness of the silicone meant that every time I pulled my phone out of my pants pocket, the pocket came with it and turned inside out. It was also hard to put the phone back in my pocket because it would grip the pocket material instead of sliding in. And finally, the silicone was a victim of its own grippiness and wore out rather quickly.

I've found a textured case like Magpul makes to be far superior to one with soft rubber.

Re: Why pens have rubbery grips

#23
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try actually reading the paper. The analysis is actually quite compelling.

I did read the paper and I'm not saying the analysis isn't compelling. I'm saying it is obvious and does not need a paper to be explained.

The process by which human fingers gives rise to stable contacts with smooth, hard objects is surprisingly slow. Using high-resolution imaging, we found that, when pressed against glass, the actual contact made by finger pad ridges evolved over time following a first-order kinetics relationship. This evolution was the result of a two-stage coalescence process of microscopic junctions made between the keratin of the stratum corneum of the skin and the glass surface. This process was driven by the secretion of moisture from the sweat glands, since increased hydration in stratum corneum causes it to become softer. Saturation was typically reached within 20 s of loading the contact, regardless of the initial moisture state of the finger and of the normal force applied.

So, nothing to see here, totally obvious?

Re: Why pens have rubbery grips

#24
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try actually reading the paper. The analysis is actually quite compelling.

I did read the paper and I'm not saying the analysis isn't compelling. I'm saying it is obvious and does not need a paper to be explained.

You can't cite "it's obvious" in other research papers though. Now that this research is published, it can easily be cited as a fact/finding/proof.

Re: Why pens have rubbery grips

#25

Most commodity ballpoint pens didn't have rubbery grips prior to the mid 1990's. I remember back-to-school shopping at the end of one summer, and most of the bags of pens were upgraded to have built-in grips. Prior to that, you'd buy triangular slip-on sleeves separately, if you wanted additional gripping traction. It was a trend that started, and progressed like many other marketing arms races. One stand-out product…

>triangular slip-on sleeves separately As someone who grew up in the 90's, I can almost guarantee you would get the crap beat out of them for walking into school with something like that. Thank goodness they're integrated into the pen now!

It's really weird to me that you've caught some downvotes for this benign and not innaccurate remark. I've upvoted you to compensate, but to no avail.

Re: Why pens have rubbery grips

#26
post #15

Are there any smartphones that have a rubber coating? Something akin to the Thinkpad lid coating. I use a rubbery case, buy that's something else. That got me to thinking. Why doesn't Lenovo cash on Thinkpad brand with a smartphone line that would be branded as such. It could use the same rubber coating and maybe titanium skeleton or something. Maybe I'm just not aware that they indeed have such a thing.

My Moto G (3rd gen or something like that) definitely has slightly rubbery texture, more so than thinkpads I think. So they do exist to some degree. Not aware of current models though.

Re: Why pens have rubbery grips

#27
I just saw on a catalog the 20 or 25th anniversary of a certain Bic pen. It was on the cover page

I thought it signified some milestone in printing where component pieces combimed with easy logo/name printing changed the logo game

Thus, more pens made with plastic (rubbery) grips had to do with manufacturing

Now i am enlightened

Re: Why pens have rubbery grips

#28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>triangular slip-on sleeves separately As someone who grew up in the 90's, I can almost guarantee you would get the crap beat out of them for walking into school with something like that. Thank goodness they're integrated into the pen now!

It's really weird to me that you've caught some downvotes for this benign and not innaccurate remark. I've upvoted you to compensate, but to no avail.

I love that even admitting that bullying exists, somehow makes people want to attack you.

As if I somehow endorsed it, or thought there was "logic" behind bullying, or that I wasn't the one on the _receiving_ end of the bullying.

We live in hilariously odd times. Better to pretend bad situations don't exist.

Re: Why pens have rubbery grips

#29
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being bullied for this? Really?

It's a pecking order instinct. I'm sure even lobsters do it. The algorithm goes like this: find someone weaker than you, focus on any difference however small or imaginary, initiate pecking, preserve your place in the hierarchy.

Yeah. I'm sincerely glad that the majority of people here somehow have never lived in a world where that exists. But I (and many others) were not so fortunate.

I mean, where do people think all those pocket protector nerd jokes came from? Thin air? Or--dare I provoke more downvotes--was it because people were bullied for having them?

I'm not _endorsing_ bullying by simply acknowledging scenarios where it exists. I kind of miss the 90's even more now. Because it was acceptable to talk about, and sing about on the radio; the darker things of life like getting bullied, being a failure, being used in a relationship "I'm just a suck'er with no self-esteeem! ohh wayyy ohhhh", and so on.

Re: Why pens have rubbery grips

#30

Most commodity ballpoint pens didn't have rubbery grips prior to the mid 1990's. I remember back-to-school shopping at the end of one summer, and most of the bags of pens were upgraded to have built-in grips. Prior to that, you'd buy triangular slip-on sleeves separately, if you wanted additional gripping traction. It was a trend that started, and progressed like many other marketing arms races. One stand-out product…

>triangular slip-on sleeves separately As someone who grew up in the 90's, I can almost guarantee you would get the crap beat out of them for walking into school with something like that. Thank goodness they're integrated into the pen now!

I was a teenager throughout the 90's and was a bit of a bully from time to time, and I don't think bullying has changed much since then. If it wasn't a pen, it was the shoes, t-shirt, or the way someone pronounced a word.

Bullies are bullies, they will pick up on any thing they can and exploit it to belittle another person.

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