It's interesting that they have "monetization" in one of the panels in their process diagram. Does that mean Cloudflare is getting into the advertising game?
Very likely. Advertising is a proven and resilient industry.
Cloudflare Stream – Combines video encoding, global delivery, and player
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#22We need to stop Cloudflare.
Why?
They are monopolizing and centralizing the Web to the detriment of everyone. You don't need to believe me, though: the free and open Web is on a march toward death, Cloudflare is one of the nails in its coffin, and I will be happy enough to say "I told you so" once the grave is filled.
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#23It's interesting that they have "monetization" in one of the panels in their process diagram. Does that mean Cloudflare is getting into the advertising game?
I am curious if this means they will enable access controls on streams somehow.
One of the challenges with video delivery and where sites like YouTube can't work is if your business relies on providing videos to paid or logged-in members only.
Patreon creators get around this in a kludgy way by using unlisted YT videos (which can still be shared by rogue patrons) but that's not ideal.
But if you want to control access to a stream based on some custom business logic in your application, you're currently stuck serving your own video or using one of the existing combination of encoder/server/player that their post alludes to.
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#24I typically find myself off set with every new Cloudflare offering, followed by wondering if they are reaching for a niche outside of DDOS protection. I'm not in a position to explore a need for Cloudflare outside of hiding my origin IP addresses, but for those of you who are, are you actually using and benefiting from the wide array of offerings from Cloudflare? As it stands now, I see these announcements and make a…
I basically use Cloudflare for dns management, they make it so easy....
I use a ton of registrars, almost all have equal simple dns management as CF. Which requires a party less to use or leak traffic information to.
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#25It's interesting that they have "monetization" in one of the panels in their process diagram. Does that mean Cloudflare is getting into the advertising game?
I am curious if this means they will enable access controls on streams somehow. One of the challenges with video delivery and where sites like YouTube can't work is if your business relies on providing videos to paid or logged-in members only. Patreon creators get around this in a kludgy way by using unlisted YT videos (which can still be shared by rogue patrons) but that's not ideal. But if you want to control acces…
We already do that for other types of content. Won't be different for video.
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#26It's interesting that they have "monetization" in one of the panels in their process diagram. Does that mean Cloudflare is getting into the advertising game?
Very likely. Advertising is a proven and resilient industry.
From Jan 30 about advertising: https://blog.cloudflare.com/firebolt/
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#27Again.. More services that us Tor users are exempt from, lest we go into captcha hell. Edit: Seriously, -1's and an accusation of supporting pedophilia? I've certainly hit on a raw topic. And frankly, I'm not wrong regarding Captcha hell. We've had dozens of articles and threads about that very topic.
As a Tor user, there was a time when Cloudflare's captchas reduced drastically. And as long as you're using the Tor Browser, there's a great chance that you'll rarely see Cloudflare's captchas.
This is correct. We radically altered how we handle Tor Browser months and months ago. I personally use TBB and I don't see Cloudflare CAPTCHAs.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
I basically use Cloudflare for dns management, they make it so easy....
I use a ton of registrars, almost all have equal simple dns management as CF. Which requires a party less to use or leak traffic information to.
What is the turnaround time for DNS to propogate on all of those registrars? Are you forced into waiting for TTL's to expire?
I may be wrong but I think eugeneionesco is referencing instant DNS changes which come as a benefit of using Cloudflare and other large DNS management companies. I've never personally seen a registrar offer anything like that.
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#29I do a lot of video stuff, and I have no idea what lossless compression is. What does it mean? Does it mean not using a resolution higher than the player is presented on the screen? Does it mean setting a sensible minimum CRF in x264?
Lossless means that the data is compressed on a bit-level. Has nothing todo with encoding. Similar to WinRAR and ZIP, it probably uses a compression algorithm specific to cloudflare storage to serve the video faster?
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#30Again.. More services that us Tor users are exempt from, lest we go into captcha hell. Edit: Seriously, -1's and an accusation of supporting pedophilia? I've certainly hit on a raw topic. And frankly, I'm not wrong regarding Captcha hell. We've had dozens of articles and threads about that very topic.
As a Tor user, there was a time when Cloudflare's captchas reduced drastically. And as long as you're using the Tor Browser, there's a great chance that you'll rarely see Cloudflare's captchas.
Indeed. If I recall correctly, it was when there was a 200+ comment thread with the top comment being about abusing Tor users WRT Cloudflare. I believe the CEO showed up, and then later ran an internal test on engineers forcing all of them to run through Tor.
For a short while, it was significantly better. It probably lasted for 3-5 weeks, and then things fairly quickly progressed back to their usual, namely being captcha hell.
(Request first page, do captcha, click on next link, do another captcha, go back to first page, do captcha... wash rinse repeat.)