Live data from Hacker News

Inception Drive: A Compact, Infinitely Variable Transmission for Robotics

spectrum.ieee.org

21–30 of 53 posts

Re: Inception Drive: A Compact, Infinitely Variable Transmission for Robotics

#21
Trying to devise a mechanism like this has consumed many many hours while mowing the grass in rural Ohio. I'm a bit too much of a perfectionist and probably would have discarded this idea even though it seems to be perfectly serviceable for a number of applications. The segmented belt is interesting.

Unfortunately my search has yielded nothing but the same topological(?) traps over and over again to the point where now I just listen to podcasts and entertain my wife with seemingly unprovoked laughter as I chase my grass mulcher around the yard.

Re: Inception Drive: A Compact, Infinitely Variable Transmission for Robotics

#22
post #10

It's clever. But so many moving parts, and doesn't look very sturdy, nor efficient.

There was a device called an electric wheel, a few years ago, which did the continuously variable thing using a planetary gear (the sun and ring were driven by separate motors, and drive was taken from the planet carrier.) http://web.archive.org/web/20080104094149/http://www.solomon... This design is inherently more compact than that arrangement, and the parts are simpler. (I think)

This is exactly how the Prius (Gen 1) 'Hybrid Synergy Drive' works.

Re: Inception Drive: A Compact, Infinitely Variable Transmission for Robotics

#24
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I own a '16 Impreza and it really drags at low speeds. It's my only complaint with the car however, and it is better with higher octane fuel.

Unless you're getting premature ignition in your cylinders from compression (knock) the higher octane shouldn't matter.

If its a turbo (i assume not?) the car’s ECU will compensate for lower octane. Source: me when, half asleep, I accidentally half-filled my 03 WRX tank with 87.

Re: Inception Drive: A Compact, Infinitely Variable Transmission for Robotics

#25
post #12

It is hard to believe it is really efficient seeing the description. I have driven cars with CVT and not been impressed.

All else being equal, cars with CVTs are usually more fuel efficient than with other types of transmissions.

Because they're tuned to perform in a manner that delivers the maximum fuel economy in order to drag up the fleet average, driver experience be damned.

Re: Inception Drive: A Compact, Infinitely Variable Transmission for Robotics

#26

Maybe the greatest feature is that it can have a very high ratio while avoiding Harmonic Drive related IP.

Does anyone know if this Inception Drive will be patented heavily as well? Or if it will be fairly easy to build products around this sort of design?

Re: Inception Drive: A Compact, Infinitely Variable Transmission for Robotics

#27
post #19

Like a lot of mechanical contrivences, if you come from a world of digital 'machines' you're tempted to say but F R I C T I O N.. The thing is that clutches, gears, back-chatter, teeth wear, this is all bread-and-butter to mechanical engineers, this stuff has been well known for years. If these people have managed to package things into an assembly which is tractable, repairable, can be scaled, and suits their purpos…

That is a place I never knew I needed to visit.

Re: Inception Drive: A Compact, Infinitely Variable Transmission for Robotics

#29

Maybe the greatest feature is that it can have a very high ratio while avoiding Harmonic Drive related IP.

Pretty sure some of the Harmonic Drive patents have lapsed. Cone Drive is now making some very similar products.

Re: Inception Drive: A Compact, Infinitely Variable Transmission for Robotics

#30
post #19

Like a lot of mechanical contrivences, if you come from a world of digital 'machines' you're tempted to say but F R I C T I O N.. The thing is that clutches, gears, back-chatter, teeth wear, this is all bread-and-butter to mechanical engineers, this stuff has been well known for years. If these people have managed to package things into an assembly which is tractable, repairable, can be scaled, and suits their purpos…

That is a place I never knew I needed to visit.

It's worth an hours-long trip! Make sure you take the Metro; Arts et Metiers is a gorgeous station.

http://onesmallwindow.com/the-life/the-coolest-museum-in-par...

Post reply on HN