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Re: iPhone 8

#21

Post by intopieces »

DanHulton wrote: post #12
Tepix wrote: post #6

It was interesting to see how Apple tried to market the fact that you have to look at the phone for FaceID to work. I see that as a hassle, not a feature.

I don't think it went far enough. Consider the circumstance where an office or agent wants your phone unlocked. Your passcode is protected, your thumbprint is currently in debate, but holding your phone to your face? If that just always unlocked your phone without any sort of interaction from you? That's an uncomfortable level of privacy loss.

Thumbprint is not currently in debate, a Virginia judge ruled it lawful for police to force you to unlock your phone.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/05/iphon...

iOS 11 has cop mode at least.

Re: iPhone 8

#22

Post by ihuman »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #14
DanHulton wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it went far enough. Consider the circumstance where an office or agent wants your phone unlocked. Your passcode is protected, your thumbprint is currently in debate, but holding your phone to your face? If that just always unlocked your phone without any sort of interaction from you? That's an uncomfortable level of privacy loss.

They did say you have to look directly at the phone. If looking away is enough to prevent it from unlocking, that doesn't seem too bad.

In addition, you also have to have your eyes open for the phone to unlock.

Re: iPhone 8

#23

Post by [deleted] »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #14
DanHulton wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it went far enough. Consider the circumstance where an office or agent wants your phone unlocked. Your passcode is protected, your thumbprint is currently in debate, but holding your phone to your face? If that just always unlocked your phone without any sort of interaction from you? That's an uncomfortable level of privacy loss.

They did say you have to look directly at the phone. If looking away is enough to prevent it from unlocking, that doesn't seem too bad.

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Re: iPhone 8

#24

Post by monkmartinez »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #14
DanHulton wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it went far enough. Consider the circumstance where an office or agent wants your phone unlocked. Your passcode is protected, your thumbprint is currently in debate, but holding your phone to your face? If that just always unlocked your phone without any sort of interaction from you? That's an uncomfortable level of privacy loss.

They did say you have to look directly at the phone. If looking away is enough to prevent it from unlocking, that doesn't seem too bad.

> They did say you have to look directly at the phone.

But it will work with sunglasses too? I find it hard to believe. Just slap some sunglasses on the perp and unlock his phone. easy peezy.

Re: iPhone 8

#25

Post by saurik »

Tepix wrote: post #6

It was interesting to see how Apple tried to market the fact that you have to look at the phone for FaceID to work. I see that as a hassle, not a feature.

Wasn't that for the iPhone X, not iPhone 8?

Re: iPhone 8

#26

Post by minimaxir »

jaytaylor wrote: post #20

No reintroduction of the headphone jack? Apple seems completely detached from the reality of what the trend setters actually desire. Needlessly locking customers to Apple-only ecosystem of hardware since iPhone 7, Apple now signals clueless consumption rather than high-status to me. Will be interesting to see what happens with the upcoming arrival of Pixel2. Edit Why the downvotes? If you disagree I'd prefer (and be…

You can use any Bluetooth headphones with the iPhone, it's not hardware lock-in.

I believe Android phones are starting to abandon the headphone jack as well.

Re: iPhone 8

#27

Post by devwastaken »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #14
DanHulton wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it went far enough. Consider the circumstance where an office or agent wants your phone unlocked. Your passcode is protected, your thumbprint is currently in debate, but holding your phone to your face? If that just always unlocked your phone without any sort of interaction from you? That's an uncomfortable level of privacy loss.

They did say you have to look directly at the phone. If looking away is enough to prevent it from unlocking, that doesn't seem too bad.

Effectively you'll need to have your head on the table if you're ever detained, or be closing your eyes shut and not able to walk, or waving your head around. Any of those could be seen as not complying with police.

Re: iPhone 8

#30

Post by monkmartinez »

ihuman wrote: post #22
LeoPanthera wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They did say you have to look directly at the phone. If looking away is enough to prevent it from unlocking, that doesn't seem too bad.

In addition, you also have to have your eyes open for the phone to unlock.

So it will not work with sunglasses? FAIL if true.
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