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Google Developer Account Wrongly Terminated NO MEANS OF DISCOURSE

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Re: Google Developer Account Wrongly Terminated NO MEANS OF DISCOURSE

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Post by mattshoe81 »

kyrra wrote: post #10

In your appeals, have you stated that the chargebacks were done in error and that you would like to repay them? As well to be clear, your brother in law closed the credit card entirely and is unable to issue a reverse chargeback? Has he tried calling the issuing back to see if they can issue a reverse chargeback in some way?

I have indeed mentioned that the chargeback were made in error, and stated my intention to repay it.

And yes, entirely closed and unable to issue a reverse chargeback. As far as I know, he's done all he can with his card account. I'm still trying to get him to contact his bank again, but I think it's a long shot

Re: Google Developer Account Wrongly Terminated NO MEANS OF DISCOURSE

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Post by boxingdog »

chrisweekly wrote: post #6
smt88 wrote: post #2

> I may be banned from doing something I love for the rest of my life (not to mention having no apps to add to my portfolio) 1. You can continue writing Android apps. You can (very likely) start distributing apps through the Play Store again just by creating a new account with a new credit card. Create an account as a company instead of an individual, for example. 2. Unless you're very old, distributing apps through…

> "Native apps will be replaced by web apps on mobile, just like they were on desktop." Provocative. I might agree with you.

I'm seeing this already, no one wants to install apps anymore

Re: Google Developer Account Wrongly Terminated NO MEANS OF DISCOURSE

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Post by mattshoe81 »

masterleep wrote: post #8

The lack of customer service contact points around developer accounts is really appalling. I had a similar issue, and it was immensely frustrating.

I'm glad someone agrees! I thought I just didn't know how to navigate or I was missing something. It really is unbelievably frustrating

Re: Google Developer Account Wrongly Terminated NO MEANS OF DISCOURSE

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Post by flukus »

mosen wrote: post #15
hirundo wrote: post #3

If you succeed in getting your account back you will only deepen your dependence on this silent, unaccountable leviathan. Do yourself the favor of learning from this experience. Walk away from Google services and count your loss as cheap tuition. Bend your path toward free and open systems instead. Where you can't find them, develop them.

You can't put an app on the Play Store without a Google Developer account. It's a big market to walk away from.

You can always create a new account to publish apps, you can't get years of mail history back and you can't reset your password to other places once you've lost your email account.

Re: Google Developer Account Wrongly Terminated NO MEANS OF DISCOURSE

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Post by droopyEyelids »

Absentee Ownership.

It used to refer to a business that was owned by someone who wasn't involved in the day to day operations.

But the same class of problems apply to an enormous monopolistic enterprise like Google, where the owner can't pay attention to it's operation in the same way as a traditional business could.

So instead of knowing it's customers, Google does it's best, and accepts a certain 'defect rate.' Those defects end up costing Google money in the long run. Of course, they cost people like us our means of earning a livelihood, and possibly our mortgage etc. But it's not really reasonable to expect a person at google to understand & fix everything Google does.

Re: Google Developer Account Wrongly Terminated NO MEANS OF DISCOURSE

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

edimaudo wrote: post #4

Find someone that works on the gmail team using linkedin and get on twitter and spread the word about your issue.

From what I've seen, the only real way these things tend to get reversed is if a Android fan blog that Googlers actively follow posts it publicly. If it's costing them press, and it's on a medium they consume, it'll make it to the right desk. Most of these sorts of stories that Android Police writes about seem to get resolved pretty quick.

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Post by Houshalter »

smt88 wrote: post #2

> I may be banned from doing something I love for the rest of my life (not to mention having no apps to add to my portfolio) 1. You can continue writing Android apps. You can (very likely) start distributing apps through the Play Store again just by creating a new account with a new credit card. Create an account as a company instead of an individual, for example. 2. Unless you're very old, distributing apps through…

>Native apps will be replaced by web apps on mobile, just like they were on desktop.

Google and apple make a fortune from their app stores. They have a huge incentive to stop this from happening, and the means to do it by restricting the mobile browser. Can you really sell a mobile app today anywhere near as effectively as a native app?

The only reason this works on desktop at all is because IE eventually lost it's monopoly. And only because Google ran what would have been one of the most expensive advertising campaigns in history to get chrome out there. And Microsoft never even had a successful app store to defend.

Re: Google Developer Account Wrongly Terminated NO MEANS OF DISCOURSE

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Post by TwelveNights »

chrisweekly wrote: post #6
smt88 wrote: post #2

> I may be banned from doing something I love for the rest of my life (not to mention having no apps to add to my portfolio) 1. You can continue writing Android apps. You can (very likely) start distributing apps through the Play Store again just by creating a new account with a new credit card. Create an account as a company instead of an individual, for example. 2. Unless you're very old, distributing apps through…

> "Native apps will be replaced by web apps on mobile, just like they were on desktop." Provocative. I might agree with you.

The cross-platform support that the web lets us have is too luxury.

Re: Google Developer Account Wrongly Terminated NO MEANS OF DISCOURSE

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Post by eddieroger »

gt_ wrote: post #16
wai1234 wrote: post #9

From this, you have learned many things already. Make sure you have learned a key lesson: handle your own finances. It was fine to have him pay the fee. It was not fine to tangle up his credit card in your life. YOU pay the fee, he hands you $25, you remain in control of your finances.

I don't think this is gonna help.

It won't now, but it will next time. $25 is a small amount of money that has caused a large amount of trouble. It would have been better to risk never getting the $25 back from the brother in law than be in this position.
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