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Tinder and the Dating Apocalypse (2015)

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Re: Tinder and the Dating Apocalypse (2015)

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I am 34 year old male, Baltimore, MD. Read the article. I feel sorry for the both parties. By the time they reach 30, they will be cynical fuckers who don't understand what is family is for. It is impossible to have sex with different women(man) every week and not become cynical to the point, you don't give a damn.

To add to the point. I have couple friends, who are in their 40's. They find women on dating sites (anywhere in the US), arrange the "hook-up", buy the ticket, fly-in, have sex and fly-out. None of them have a stable families. They are highly cynical people. Just fuck and get out. Don't be like that. You will grow older, lonely, without families. Stable family is what you will keep you sane, once you reach 45. (Unles…

I'm sorry, but if you "need" a family to stay sane, that is a sign of an underlying problem, and instead of running from it you should tackle it.

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One factor largely absent here (and actually obscured by their choice to interview investment bankers) is the huge amount of financial anxiety facing young people in America.[0] Crippling student debt, a lack of savings and inability to find high-paying jobs can make the prospects of starting a family or even serious relationship hugely unattractive. The assertion in this article that Tinder is great because you can…

There's also the high risk of marriage ending in divorce and losing half (or more) of your financial assets when the relationship falls apart. That has been keeping a lot of men from marrying, which is another factor that drives some portion of them to avoid marriage by design.

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Yeah, its a trap generally. In theory your dating matches are limitless, in reality they are much more constrained. This is how the dating atmosphere in NYC generally works, a ton of people with too many mediocre options.

Saw an article recently stating * bottom 80% of the men all compete for 20% of the women who actually respond to them * the other 80% of the women only respond to the top 20% of the men

Yeah its crazy, all these average single girls thinking they are better than the average single guys, until they hit mid to late twenties. Then they "settle" for someone they deemed undesirable for the previous few years.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, its a trap generally. In theory your dating matches are limitless, in reality they are much more constrained. This is how the dating atmosphere in NYC generally works, a ton of people with too many mediocre options.

Saw an article recently stating * bottom 80% of the men all compete for 20% of the women who actually respond to them * the other 80% of the women only respond to the top 20% of the men

Two rules of online dating: 1. be attractive and 2. don't be unattractive.

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One factor largely absent here (and actually obscured by their choice to interview investment bankers) is the huge amount of financial anxiety facing young people in America.[0] Crippling student debt, a lack of savings and inability to find high-paying jobs can make the prospects of starting a family or even serious relationship hugely unattractive. The assertion in this article that Tinder is great because you can…

There's also the high risk of marriage ending in divorce and losing half (or more) of your financial assets when the relationship falls apart. That has been keeping a lot of men from marrying, which is another factor that drives some portion of them to avoid marriage by design.

Wouldn't that only be the case if there is a huge disparity in wealth and income between spouses? If professionals marry other professionals, similar to how doctors mostly marry other doctors, that shouldn't be a problem.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, its a trap generally. In theory your dating matches are limitless, in reality they are much more constrained. This is how the dating atmosphere in NYC generally works, a ton of people with too many mediocre options.

Saw an article recently stating * bottom 80% of the men all compete for 20% of the women who actually respond to them * the other 80% of the women only respond to the top 20% of the men

That may be true, but recognize that just as in income, the quintiles are fluid. My wife (presumably) places me in the top 20% by her fitness function, while someone seeking GQ models for December's shoot wouldn't put me in the top 50%.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's also the high risk of marriage ending in divorce and losing half (or more) of your financial assets when the relationship falls apart. That has been keeping a lot of men from marrying, which is another factor that drives some portion of them to avoid marriage by design.

Wouldn't that only be the case if there is a huge disparity in wealth and income between spouses? If professionals marry other professionals, similar to how doctors mostly marry other doctors, that shouldn't be a problem.

Shouldn't...unless there are kids in the picture.

Re: Tinder and the Dating Apocalypse (2015)

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The appearance of a limitless supply gives the false confidence that a perfect match will be found. Technology, IMHO, has removed all courtship and romance out of dating. It woukd be interesting to see more of a Tinder of blind dates, no photos, and a requirement that you spend time talking on the phone or texting the perfect before you see their photo.

There is real advantage to increasing the number of prospective partners, IMO, whether you subscribe to the rigorous application of the "secretary problem" or not. Even if you don't, I think broader exposure to and sense of the size of your realistic dating pool is helpful.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/16/when-...

Re: Tinder and the Dating Apocalypse (2015)

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One factor largely absent here (and actually obscured by their choice to interview investment bankers) is the huge amount of financial anxiety facing young people in America.[0] Crippling student debt, a lack of savings and inability to find high-paying jobs can make the prospects of starting a family or even serious relationship hugely unattractive. The assertion in this article that Tinder is great because you can…

Dating on the cheap isn't hard at all. The problem is dealing with a potential partner that expects to be treated is the problem.

That being said I've had women friends of mine loose their mind when they hear that I don't pay for the girl on dates I go on.

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Missing (2015) tag. It's easy to read this as another shitty "millennial are ruining X" article that piles anecdotes on top of popular stereotypes, though it is maybe worth noting that marriage rates really are declining pretty quickly and consistently [0]. [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/06/23/144-y...

If the whole "apocalypse" thing seems alarmist, consider that Japan's birth/death ratio has been Of course, that's only a real problem if our immigration policies continue deteriorating. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_Japan ]

Japan's birth/death rate is fairly bad, but at least their fertility rate is increasing again since 2005 after steady decline. Given the current path they look on their way to restoring a healthy birth/death ratio within a few decades.

Meanwhile the US birth rate doesn't seem to be tanking from online dating[1]. There has been some decline since 2005, but it seems to be bottoming out and is still well above 1975-1980 levels. In the grand scheme of things that's just normal fluctuation [2]. Of course 1.85 is still way too low to be self-sustaining, but Tinder doesn't seem to be the problem.

The EU fertility rate seems similarly unimpressed by the advent of online dating (being above the levels of 2000, but still uncomfortably close to those of Japan) [3].

If there's an apocalypse, it's the one caused by wide availability of the birth control pill. That really upset out demographic pyramids. Online dating meanwhile doesn't seem to have any measurable impact so far.

1:https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?location...

2: http://www.prb.org/images12/us-fertility-figure1.gif

3: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?location...

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