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Rayton Solar: Legitimate Investment or Scam?

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Its just a liberal contract, and you just have to hope they won't do it the way this article flags. Most crowd sales have unlimited discretionary use of the funds, and that doesn't mean you can't make a profit, especially if you receive something tradable back. This is probably another reason why equity companies (or at least, purchases of their private equity) are going to go the way of the dinosaur, without liberal…

> equity companies (or at least, purchases of their private equity) are going to go the way of the dinosaur Source?

This year the source is the collective conscious that sees and uses the alternative ways of raising or transmitting capital, who can tolerate the lack of consumer and investor protections because of the immediate liquidity benefits allowing them to manage risk

There is no dissertation on it, at best you'll find some charts showing side by side comparisons of what you get with the antiquated share company - a technology from 1600 AD - with what is available now, and you couple that with the size of the deal flow and extrapolate what can happen next

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Regarding Bill Nye, this makes me sad. He really was instrumental in making science fun and exciting when I was young. In his post TV life he's become just another political idealogue. Even doing as far as censuring[1] his own TV show when the science contradicts his social justice message. Now it seems he's coming to normal people with an ax to grind. It's hard to see him not profiting from this endeavor. 1. https:/…

Same here. Loved his show as a kid -- I suspect he's enjoyed being a celebrity a little too much and is a victim of his own ego.

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As an expert on silicon and solar, the technology is doomed- here's why: •It is totally possible, in terms of the physics, to do what they're proposing. All you have to do is take your ingot or boule of FZ or Cz Silicon, draw a vacuum on it, backfill it with hydrogen, and run your ion implantation head over it. Like a Durandal bomb, the upper surface is relatively undisturbed but a cutting effect occurs beneath the s…

I agree that this is going to be a commercial failure even if funded. Additional stray observations: - The "magic," if anything, is supposed to be that super-thin kerfless wafers could justify the industrial scale use of float zone silicon. FZ has often been the material of choice for lab scale fabrication of champion devices. Unlike ordinary boron doped p-type Cz silicon, it doesn't have dissolved oxygen traces from…

1366 Technologies's full-scale plant in Western New York has yet to break ground. The state finally broke ground two days ago on some minor infrastructure work for the site, but 1366 might be held up by financing issues due to worries that Trump won't follow through on a DOE $150M loan guarantee.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One more: * Silicon is not a rare material. It's one of the more common elements in Earth's crust. The price is largely in processing and fabrication, meaning it's going to continue to fall like a rock due to economies of scale and optimization.

Silicon of the requisite purity is not just lying around. Purifying it takes a significant amount of energy, which puts a floor under the price.

Energy prices have fallen continually through human history. As our demand for energy increases we find better and better ways of harnessing available energy. This wafer technology itself could lead to reducing energy costs to a point where silicon refinement becomes economical for the production of further wafers.

The availability of Silicon is not a limitation energy prices are.

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post #7

As an expert on silicon and solar, the technology is doomed- here's why: •It is totally possible, in terms of the physics, to do what they're proposing. All you have to do is take your ingot or boule of FZ or Cz Silicon, draw a vacuum on it, backfill it with hydrogen, and run your ion implantation head over it. Like a Durandal bomb, the upper surface is relatively undisturbed but a cutting effect occurs beneath the s…

> Like a Durandal bomb

Sorry, can you explain this metaphor?

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Regarding Bill Nye, this makes me sad. He really was instrumental in making science fun and exciting when I was young. In his post TV life he's become just another political idealogue. Even doing as far as censuring[1] his own TV show when the science contradicts his social justice message. Now it seems he's coming to normal people with an ax to grind. It's hard to see him not profiting from this endeavor. 1. https:/…

That’s a weak-ass article you’ve cited there which does little more than make some vague accusations with little evidence.

Frankly this looks more like a typical case of a celebrity endorsement without enough research - which is bad, but I’d argue far less serious than the accusations you’re making.

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post #20

Regarding Bill Nye, this makes me sad. He really was instrumental in making science fun and exciting when I was young. In his post TV life he's become just another political idealogue. Even doing as far as censuring[1] his own TV show when the science contradicts his social justice message. Now it seems he's coming to normal people with an ax to grind. It's hard to see him not profiting from this endeavor. 1. https:/…

He also provided a platform to legitimize creationism by debating it as if it is a valid explanation of how the world came to be. I understand the desire to promote debate but I think he fell into the false balance trap. He did a great deal to advance STEM in the millennial generation which should not be understated but nobody is faultless. He is a great educator but I question if he really knows how best to use his…

You're just as far in the opposite direction, though.

When people have strange beliefs, the best way to deal with the situation is usually to talk to them on the same level, as grownups with valid beliefs. Otherwise you change no one's mind.

If we dig through your brain, we'd probably turn up a few questionable beliefs of your own. Most people just aren't that transparent.

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post #25
post #7

As an expert on silicon and solar, the technology is doomed- here's why: •It is totally possible, in terms of the physics, to do what they're proposing. All you have to do is take your ingot or boule of FZ or Cz Silicon, draw a vacuum on it, backfill it with hydrogen, and run your ion implantation head over it. Like a Durandal bomb, the upper surface is relatively undisturbed but a cutting effect occurs beneath the s…

> Like a Durandal bomb Sorry, can you explain this metaphor?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matra_Durandal

Re: Rayton Solar: Legitimate Investment or Scam?

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Regarding Bill Nye, this makes me sad. He really was instrumental in making science fun and exciting when I was young. In his post TV life he's become just another political idealogue. Even doing as far as censuring[1] his own TV show when the science contradicts his social justice message. Now it seems he's coming to normal people with an ax to grind. It's hard to see him not profiting from this endeavor. 1. https:/…

That’s a weak-ass article you’ve cited there which does little more than make some vague accusations with little evidence. Frankly this looks more like a typical case of a celebrity endorsement without enough research - which is bad, but I’d argue far less serious than the accusations you’re making.

This author’s every post is vacuous clickbait for angry right-wingers, https://thefederalist.com/author/danielpayne/

“Trump Spoke Truth About ‘Both Sides’ In Charlottesville, And The Media Lost Their Minds”

“If We’re Tearing Down White Supremacy, Start With Planned Parenthood”

“If Google Fires Anyone Over Stereotyping, It Should Be The Employees Who Stayed Home To Cry Over A Memo”

“Dear Climate Alarmists: Now That The Paris Accord Is Settled, Please Go Away”

etc.

Re: Rayton Solar: Legitimate Investment or Scam?

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post #20

Regarding Bill Nye, this makes me sad. He really was instrumental in making science fun and exciting when I was young. In his post TV life he's become just another political idealogue. Even doing as far as censuring[1] his own TV show when the science contradicts his social justice message. Now it seems he's coming to normal people with an ax to grind. It's hard to see him not profiting from this endeavor. 1. https:/…

He also provided a platform to legitimize creationism by debating it as if it is a valid explanation of how the world came to be. I understand the desire to promote debate but I think he fell into the false balance trap. He did a great deal to advance STEM in the millennial generation which should not be understated but nobody is faultless. He is a great educator but I question if he really knows how best to use his…

a) The debate is happening whether Bill Nye takes part or not.

b) If proponents of proposition A are unwilling to debate proponents of proposition B then proponents of A will be look like they don't believe in their proposition. You need to be willing to defend your beliefs.

c) Debating someone does not legitimize their proposition. I believe you are legitimizing their proposition if you refuse to debate them.

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