I'm still confused if apoe4s should do a low fat diet?
I've seen it recommended but with all the damage carbs can do I'm thinking high fat is still the way to go?
Low-fat diet could kill you, major study shows
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#22Sigh. I mean, they're right, but they're also still missing the concept of "What kind of fat?". Different kinds of fats effect you differently. This has been known for a long time. One my favorite blog posts summarizing some research on this point, on Butter vs Margarine, is 8 years old now, and it still hasn't penetrated the mainstream. http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/10/butter-vs-marg...
You sure thats not mainstream? NYC banned trans fats starting in July 2007. I learned about them in middle or high school 10-15 years ago.
Re: Low-fat diet could kill you, major study shows
#23Sigh. I mean, they're right, but they're also still missing the concept of "What kind of fat?". Different kinds of fats effect you differently. This has been known for a long time. One my favorite blog posts summarizing some research on this point, on Butter vs Margarine, is 8 years old now, and it still hasn't penetrated the mainstream. http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/10/butter-vs-marg...
> It's worth mentioning that this study was conducted from the late 1960s until the late 1980s. Artificial trans fat labeling laws were still decades away in the U.S., and margarine contained more trans fat than it does today. Currently, margarine can contain up to 0.5 grams of trans fat per serving and still be labeled "0 g trans fat" in the U.S. The high trans fat content of the older margarines probably had something to do with the result of this study.
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#24seems like articles like this are always read as justification for KFC, butter, cheese and burgers rather than "hey maybe eating all those nuts and avocados is a good idea???"
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#25Not too much and not too little, seems to be the way to go. But, given the amount of previous research about harmful effects of fat, it's hard to tell whether this is just an outlier. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if "High-fat diet could kill you, major study shows" has appeared in headlines more than once. "Loosening the restriction on total fat and saturated fat and imposing limits on carbohydrates when high to r…
It's way too easy to binge on carbs and it's really really hard to eat too much fat. I've guzzled 6 packs of beer and eaten entire pizzas in a sitting more times than I care to admit. (Also because I lost count after the first dozen times or so). Now that I'm on a low-carb high-fat diet, I find myself eating until I'm full, and at that point I simply have too much fat and protein in my stomach for my body to even wan…
I switched to a roughly 40/30/30 split of carbs/protein/fat (including lots of saturated fat and at least 120g of protein/day) a couple of years ago. I have never been so lean and my athletic performance has improved hugely.
Saturated fat is my friend.
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#26 early death
...risk
...heart attack
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#27Am I missing something or is there not a single link to the study in this article? Didn't see it anywhere on mobile.
After the title there isn't really any info about dietary fats but instead will read about how basically all this study may have found is that those doing "low fat diets" might end up eating really crappy carbs. I can't find the link to the study though so maybe they found something else..
I don't think people eating crappy carbs and drinking soda could really be considered "dieters" they seem more like "unhealthy eaters who happen to be eating low fat".
From the article: "Those doing so tended to eat far too much stodgy food like bread, pasta and rice, the experts said, while missing out on vital nutrients.
Participants eating the highest levels of carbohydrates – particularly refined sugars found in fizzy drinks and processed meals – faced a 28 per cent higher risk of early death."
Also their suggestion goes on to say a good balance is 35% of calories from fat which I would say is still fairly 'low-fat' of a diet IMO but I guess that's pretty subjective and I'm not a dietician.
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#28Sigh... this article presents a false dichotomy: you either eat a high fat diet, or you mostly eat refined carbs.
Based on dozens of nutritionists I've talked to, focusing on macronutrients as the primary metric is not great. Personally, I look at these things before macros: is it plant-based, is it whole (not refined/processed).
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#29seems like articles like this are always read as justification for KFC, butter, cheese and burgers rather than "hey maybe eating all those nuts and avocados is a good idea???"
There is nothing wrong with butter and cheese, unless you happen to be fat and are trying to eat fewer calories. The main thing to avoid in burgers are the buns.
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#30Don't know why people think fat is bad in the first place. But then again I have been keto for ~2 years. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯