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Spying on Students: School-Issued Devices and Student Privacy

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Re: Spying on Students: School-Issued Devices and Student Privacy

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Kids should have absolutely no expectation of privacy.

You've been downvoted a little; My guess is that people are reading your post as "Kids don't deserve privacy"

But that's not what you actually said, and I'm not so sure that it's what you actually meant. Could you elaborate a bit?

Re: Spying on Students: School-Issued Devices and Student Privacy

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

New accounts comments can be autoflagged for various reasons. Vouch for it, as we can see someone has. The system works.

>Vouch for it, as we can see someone has. The system works. Can you even do that? I thought flag/vouch only works for links.

As 'aaron695 said, it works for comments as well. If you want to confirm, turn on showdead and view some comments. You should see a vouch link.

Re: Spying on Students: School-Issued Devices and Student Privacy

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For some terrible reason, societies tend to believe that the younger you are, the less deserving of rights you are. Even rights such as this, where having privacy would carry less risk than an older person perhaps seeing dangerous things from the younger people. They still do the wrong thing and rob the younger people of their human rights. (Dangerous here means that in most countries, if you eyes or ears detect lewd behavior under a certain age, you go to jail.)

Re: Spying on Students: School-Issued Devices and Student Privacy

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Kids should have absolutely no expectation of privacy.

I've tried to educate my kids about this. I've told them since an early age, that there is no privacy in any interaction with the school: Even a well meaning attempt to protect their information, in the absence of sufficient expertise, is futile. Famous hacks and releases of private information, reported in the news, are good teachable moments. My advice is that they can still get good grades while sticking with "saf…

It's basically the same as a corporate environment but with lower stakes and less funding to ensure competency.

Telling children they are entitled to privacy is setting them up for a world that will surely disappoint them.

Re: Spying on Students: School-Issued Devices and Student Privacy

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post #5

Created a throwaway just for this as I'd like to remain anonymous. I'm currently in high school, though I picked up programming early. My school decided to purchase a bunch of "educational" tablets for the student populace a while back (wasting a million or so in the process). All in all, they were a disaster. Not only were they not used for their intended purpose, they were a huge distraction in the classroom. Kids…

Computers have been heralded as the magic answer to teaching kids for 40 years now. There have been no positive results yet. It's not hard to see why - putting computers in the classroom is like putting labor saving devices in the gym. Learning requires focused effort and work, there's just no way around it.

I think it's because people are attempting to somehow "improve" the current educational methods using techno magic assuming that "if we do the stand-in-front-of-a-blackboard thing except with tablets" is going to lead to any sort of an improvement.

Re: Spying on Students: School-Issued Devices and Student Privacy

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Kids should have absolutely no expectation of privacy.

Kids are human people. Why should some of us have no expectation of privacy, while others do?

I would argue that kids are more proto-human being than fully fledged human being, which is why they need education to start with.

Also, why, if they are human being, are they subjected to lesser criminal penalties than "adults" ?

Re: Spying on Students: School-Issued Devices and Student Privacy

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post #2

Kids should have absolutely no expectation of privacy.

Why, and from whom? Their parents? Their school? Corporations?

I'd argue, at foremost, from their parents. [and yes, I was very aware of this fact to the extent that my first real-world application of programming was to automate obfuscate my browsing history as a teenager.]

Re: Spying on Students: School-Issued Devices and Student Privacy

#28
post #2

Kids should have absolutely no expectation of privacy.

You've been downvoted a little; My guess is that people are reading your post as "Kids don't deserve privacy" But that's not what you actually said, and I'm not so sure that it's what you actually meant. Could you elaborate a bit?

The downvote might be related to the current pedestal our society currently place "kids" on, as harmless pure creatures adults shall bow to.

Re: Spying on Students: School-Issued Devices and Student Privacy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kids are human people. Why should some of us have no expectation of privacy, while others do?

I would argue that kids are more proto-human being than fully fledged human being, which is why they need education to start with. Also, why, if they are human being, are they subjected to lesser criminal penalties than "adults" ?

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Re: Spying on Students: School-Issued Devices and Student Privacy

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post #2

Kids should have absolutely no expectation of privacy.

http://www.ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/CRC.aspx

> Article 16

> 1. No child shall be subjected to arbitrary or unlawful interference with his or her privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to unlawful attacks on his or her honour and reputation.

> 2. The child has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

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