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Diaspora version 0.7.0.0 released

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Re: Diaspora version 0.7.0.0 released

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Post by blubb-fish »

tw1010 wrote: post #13

I like these guys' perseverance. But part of me can't stop the feeling of sadness that they've spent a better part of a decade working on it, perhaps the best years of their lives. I know perseverance and failure is seen as good things in certain circles, but I don't think I've ever read a biography where the author spent ten years on something that ultimately went nowhere and then went on to do things of enough note…

so, my life goal should be to spend my time such that you (or anybody else) would be willing to read my biography?

Re: Diaspora version 0.7.0.0 released

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Post by jhasse »

mike-cardwell wrote: post #8

Does event management exist yet? I.e, can my friends and I create events and invite people to them like you can on Facebook? Also, ISTR from last time I played with it, there was no ability to create photo albums/collections. Does that exist now? Without those two things I couldn't even begin to consider getting people to start using it.

> Does event management exist yet? I.e, can my friends and I create events and invite people to them like you can on Facebook?

No, not yet. See https://github.com/diaspora/diaspora/issues/1359

Re: Diaspora version 0.7.0.0 released

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Post by alchemism »

tw1010 wrote: post #13

I like these guys' perseverance. But part of me can't stop the feeling of sadness that they've spent a better part of a decade working on it, perhaps the best years of their lives. I know perseverance and failure is seen as good things in certain circles, but I don't think I've ever read a biography where the author spent ten years on something that ultimately went nowhere and then went on to do things of enough note…

Abraham Lincoln, albeit not a scientist.

Re: Diaspora version 0.7.0.0 released

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Post by blubb-fish »

diaspora is flawed by design. it will only ever be used by techies b/c either you take care of your own server or you have to trust somebody with your data.

what is needed is a facebook e.V. with a strict data safety policy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registered_association_(Germ...

it would cost transparently what is needed to sustain the service.

Re: Diaspora version 0.7.0.0 released

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Post by gaius »

mejin wrote: post #6

While I completely support the goal of diaspora, I don't think that I can use it. one of the main benefits of Facebook is that I can look up someone's information / posts without them being informed. Imo that is what made Facebook so big in the first place.

Zuck et al probably realised very early on that casual stalking was a major use case. Not in a dangerous way, but maybe you wanted to find out a little more about that guy or girl before you asked them out, that sort of thing. They were all in college at the time after all. So he was careful not to include any feature that would inhibit this.

Re: Diaspora version 0.7.0.0 released

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Post by gaius »

mike-cardwell wrote: post #8

Does event management exist yet? I.e, can my friends and I create events and invite people to them like you can on Facebook? Also, ISTR from last time I played with it, there was no ability to create photo albums/collections. Does that exist now? Without those two things I couldn't even begin to consider getting people to start using it.

Lack of integration with their calendar right from the off is why Google Plus flopped, I reckon.

Re: Diaspora version 0.7.0.0 released

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Post by xkarga00 »

tw1010 wrote: post #13

I like these guys' perseverance. But part of me can't stop the feeling of sadness that they've spent a better part of a decade working on it, perhaps the best years of their lives. I know perseverance and failure is seen as good things in certain circles, but I don't think I've ever read a biography where the author spent ten years on something that ultimately went nowhere and then went on to do things of enough note…

> I don't think I've ever read a biography where the author spent ten years on something that ultimately went nowhere and then went on to do things of enough noteworthiness to merit said biography.

Didn't it occur to you that even if diaspora goes nowhere, the work these guys have been doing may be influential or even the foundation for something that will actually go somewhere in the future?

Re: Diaspora version 0.7.0.0 released

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Post by quickben »

jancsika wrote: post #18

Someone should run a Diaspora pod with the following model: 1. They market it like crazy in the hopes of getting something like a few million users 2. They publicly state that they will mine all metadata for the purpose of generating an "inference report". 3. Every other week they release an "inference report" that reveals a new, dangerous way the seemingly innocuous metadata can be used. Some examples would include…

The idea sounds like Matadors day job.

Everybody want to see the results, rarely who will want to actually be there.

How do you incentivise it?

Re: Diaspora version 0.7.0.0 released

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Post by infinity0 »

blubb-fish wrote: post #24

diaspora is flawed by design. it will only ever be used by techies b/c either you take care of your own server or you have to trust somebody with your data. what is needed is a facebook e.V. with a strict data safety policy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registered_association_(Germ... it would cost transparently what is needed to sustain the service.

Your comment contradicts itself. A facebook e.V. with a strict data safety policy would be nothing more than another organisation running something similar to diaspora.

Re: Diaspora version 0.7.0.0 released

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Post by Animats »

jancsika wrote: post #18

Someone should run a Diaspora pod with the following model: 1. They market it like crazy in the hopes of getting something like a few million users 2. They publicly state that they will mine all metadata for the purpose of generating an "inference report". 3. Every other week they release an "inference report" that reveals a new, dangerous way the seemingly innocuous metadata can be used. Some examples would include…

1. They market it like crazy in the hopes of getting something like a few million users.

That's the problem. Nobody uses Disapora*.

I got an account a few years ago, but abandoned it after discovering there was nobody on there worth talking to.

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