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Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Post by 0xTJ »

Accacin wrote: post #10
throwaway7645 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most distros are geared to different things like Arch Linux is bare-bones...etc. You are correct that there are plenty of distros where the main difference is the default desktop environment like cinnamon or kde and that isn't super helpful and fractures the community.

> Arch Linux is bare-bones...etc No, it isn't. But I get the general idea.

The commenter's point was that it comes bare-bones. There is very little installed on a stock Arch installation. Unlike a distro like Ubuntu, Mint, etc., which are some of the most common desktop distros and come with a large variety of packages, Arch's install file is shockingly small, and the base packages themselves are very limited.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Post by stephengillie »

> Faster file sharing: Windows 10 Pro for Workstations includes a feature called SMB Direct, which supports the use of network adapters that have Remote Direct Memory Access (RDMA) capability. Network adapters that have RDMA can function at full speed with very low latency, while using very little CPU.

Interesting to see file copy speeds mentioned. "Drag-and-drop" file copy has a known bottleneck that other methods (robocopy, copy-item, etc) do not have, and I wonder if this improvement will improve all copy methods, or just "Drag-and-drop".

Also interested in the security considerations for having DMA (Direct memory access) to a remote PC for SMB. Presumably this would be for authenticated users/sessions. Yet SMB has been a recently-leveraged protocol for ransomware attacks.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

Users are asking for features, not for yet more editions of Windows. Editions are merely a way to charge for those features and I don't think they are a good way to do that.

Editions create barriers. They make you work around missing features that would force you into buying a much more expensive edition, so you learn to live without those features or replace them with other operating systems and free software.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Post by mdek »

Will this address the absurd automatic updates/reboot "feature"? I've had the experience multiple times where a step away for a few minutes and come back to a blank desktop, even during the "active hours" period. This is especially infuriating when I do most of my work in a vbox slackware VM and win10 is just a host that I want to stay out of the way; instead I lose my entire current state. This seems like a major defect for either a "Pro" or "Pro for Workstations" version

Has anyone found a reliable way to disable automatic reboots for Windows 10 Pro? My registry mods have all eventually stopped working.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Post by detaro »

mdek wrote: post #24

Will this address the absurd automatic updates/reboot "feature"? I've had the experience multiple times where a step away for a few minutes and come back to a blank desktop, even during the "active hours" period. This is especially infuriating when I do most of my work in a vbox slackware VM and win10 is just a host that I want to stay out of the way; instead I lose my entire current state. This seems like a major de…

I set the group policy to ask the user before installation and never had a problem. It still wants to reboot after you install the update, but since it only installs the update when you tell it to it's effectively manual control.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Post by cillian64 »

mdek wrote: post #24

Will this address the absurd automatic updates/reboot "feature"? I've had the experience multiple times where a step away for a few minutes and come back to a blank desktop, even during the "active hours" period. This is especially infuriating when I do most of my work in a vbox slackware VM and win10 is just a host that I want to stay out of the way; instead I lose my entire current state. This seems like a major de…

I seem to recall there's a way to do this with group policy editor. I'd expect this to be more supported/proper than via the registry. But I can't remember where in group policy the setting is found, and am purely speculating at its reliability.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Post by tokenizerrr »

mdek wrote: post #24

Will this address the absurd automatic updates/reboot "feature"? I've had the experience multiple times where a step away for a few minutes and come back to a blank desktop, even during the "active hours" period. This is especially infuriating when I do most of my work in a vbox slackware VM and win10 is just a host that I want to stay out of the way; instead I lose my entire current state. This seems like a major de…

Rebooting your computer daily will do the trick. Either shut it down at the end of the day, or give it a reboot. It will do its thing and leave you alone for the next 24 hours.

Before you downvote me, which many of you have done already for some reason, please keep in mind that this advice actually works. It's not my decision to have things work like this. That's on Microsoft. But it does work, and is legitimate advice.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Post by youdontknowtho »

stephengillie wrote: post #22

> Faster file sharing: Windows 10 Pro for Workstations includes a feature called SMB Direct, which supports the use of network adapters that have Remote Direct Memory Access (RDMA) capability. Network adapters that have RDMA can function at full speed with very low latency, while using very little CPU. Interesting to see file copy speeds mentioned. "Drag-and-drop" file copy has a known bottleneck that other methods (…

SMB 3 hasn't been part of the ransomeware attacks. It was SMB 1. SMB 3 can use RDMA and is insanely fast. I'm not sure how SMB over RDMA is supposed to work on a workstation, though. It's only been used for file servers and clusters at this point.

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Post by cm2187 »

tokenizerrr wrote: post #27
mdek wrote: post #24

Will this address the absurd automatic updates/reboot "feature"? I've had the experience multiple times where a step away for a few minutes and come back to a blank desktop, even during the "active hours" period. This is especially infuriating when I do most of my work in a vbox slackware VM and win10 is just a host that I want to stay out of the way; instead I lose my entire current state. This seems like a major de…

Rebooting your computer daily will do the trick. Either shut it down at the end of the day, or give it a reboot. It will do its thing and leave you alone for the next 24 hours. Before you downvote me, which many of you have done already for some reason, please keep in mind that this advice actually works. It's not my decision to have things work like this. That's on Microsoft. But it does work, and is legitimate advi…

Sounds like a Windows 98 advice...

Re: Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

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Post by [deleted] »

youdontknowtho wrote: post #28
stephengillie wrote: post #22

> Faster file sharing: Windows 10 Pro for Workstations includes a feature called SMB Direct, which supports the use of network adapters that have Remote Direct Memory Access (RDMA) capability. Network adapters that have RDMA can function at full speed with very low latency, while using very little CPU. Interesting to see file copy speeds mentioned. "Drag-and-drop" file copy has a known bottleneck that other methods (…

SMB 3 hasn't been part of the ransomeware attacks. It was SMB 1. SMB 3 can use RDMA and is insanely fast. I'm not sure how SMB over RDMA is supposed to work on a workstation, though. It's only been used for file servers and clusters at this point.

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