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SoundCloud faces do-or-die vote by investors

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Re: SoundCloud faces do-or-die vote by investors

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For all those looking to make a SoundCloud clone: What is HN's opinion on its failings (from a user perspective) — i.e. how would you make SoundCloud better right now? Also interested to hear those who can balance with commercial viability.

Focus on DJ sets, remixes, hip-hop/electronica producers like others have said. Don't try to be Spotify.

Re: SoundCloud faces do-or-die vote by investors

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What a messed up article. I don't know this CEO but using a picture taken at a festival two years ago as proof of incompetence seems very cheap.

Indeed–that image caption serves absolutely no purpose except to beat on someone who is at a low point anyway. And it doesn't even make sense! Taking a vacation every now and then is likely to improve productivity, and for SoundCloud specifically, it seems almost necessary to go to Burning Man and mingle. The criticism is especially rich coming from a guy who looks at least twice as stoned in his official TechCrunch…

How dare you suggest that people should take vacations and have a life?

Re: SoundCloud faces do-or-die vote by investors

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For all those looking to make a SoundCloud clone: What is HN's opinion on its failings (from a user perspective) — i.e. how would you make SoundCloud better right now? Also interested to hear those who can balance with commercial viability.

Pardon my ignorance but why would someone clone a business that tried for years and failed? Wouldn't it be like cloning Groupon?

At least they had tons of users and an alternative would get a lot of attention right now. If you have a solid plan to get the finances to work out...

Re: SoundCloud faces do-or-die vote by investors

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Of course we are all thinking (hmm should we do a clone) and believe me I am not going to deny it's tempting, hell I might even be pushing for something like that.

But the reality is most likely that someone is going to buy them for no money and then continue the platform trying to beat the dead horse alive.

The reality is that you don't make any money on streaming services if you don't hold the rights. Netflix and Spotify should be a good inspiration for how to do it and they aren't even doing as well as one might think.

But there is a very simple way to make a good (non funded) business out of soundcloud and that is to turn it into a paid platform for artists who want to push things up there.

Re: SoundCloud faces do-or-die vote by investors

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What a messed up article. I don't know this CEO but using a picture taken at a festival two years ago as proof of incompetence seems very cheap.

Also full of dramatic, unsubstantiated claims such as:

> Now staff morale is in the toilet, the user experience is a mess, the subscription models are unappealing, competitors are growing rapidly and musicians are fleeing to other upload platform.

I really thought TechCrunch was getting better, but man this is bad journalism. It's like a hit piece in a high school newspaper.

Re: SoundCloud faces do-or-die vote by investors

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For all those looking to make a SoundCloud clone: What is HN's opinion on its failings (from a user perspective) — i.e. how would you make SoundCloud better right now? Also interested to hear those who can balance with commercial viability.

Go back to basics. Keep it focused on community facing artists, remixes, dj sets, etc. From what I've seen they suffered most from lack of direction, weak leadership, and no real business plan from the beginning. It seems (correct me if I'm wrong) it started as a hobby project and got twisted into a SaaS model that didn't fit it's purpose or audience. As far as monetization - why not have a Patreon-esque system of su…

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Re: SoundCloud faces do-or-die vote by investors

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Being in the music industry, I always had a negative experience using SoundCloud - It's not surprising that by neglecting their user's needs they are systematically imploding.

I feel like they had the opposite problem. They only focused on fan-service, at the expense of profitability. The reason the music industry hates it is because it removes them as gatekeepers. Soundcloud gave a platform to musicians that allowed them to gain exposure to audiences without having to bend the knee to LA or NY.

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For all those looking to make a SoundCloud clone: What is HN's opinion on its failings (from a user perspective) — i.e. how would you make SoundCloud better right now? Also interested to hear those who can balance with commercial viability.

Go back to basics. Keep it focused on community facing artists, remixes, dj sets, etc. From what I've seen they suffered most from lack of direction, weak leadership, and no real business plan from the beginning. It seems (correct me if I'm wrong) it started as a hobby project and got twisted into a SaaS model that didn't fit it's purpose or audience. As far as monetization - why not have a Patreon-esque system of su…

> why not have a Patreon-esque system

You've lost me there.

You can't, because people don't pay and don't want to pay, unless they are forced to, as in there's actual scarcity (i.e. no way to easily get that content from anywhere else).

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