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Google blocked every one of the WSWS’s 45 top search terms

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Re: Google blocked every one of the WSWS’s 45 top search terms

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> These findings make clear that the decline in Google search traffic to the WSWS is not the result of some technical issue, but a deliberate policy of censorship. Quite a claim.

It would be very interesting to prove this, but their argument is mostly circumstantial so far.

The fact that Google is refusing to deny it is, in my view, pretty strong circumstantial evidence.

Re: Google blocked every one of the WSWS’s 45 top search terms

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When Google, Facebook, and others announced that they were banning "fake news", many on the left cheered. But it was probably naive to assume Google would limit itself to censoring political opinions with which one disagrees.

I don't quite understand the snark in your response - were you, unlike the purported cheering liberals, fond of the purveyors of fake news?

I'm assuming the poster is pointing out that regardless of your political leaning, it might be naive to blindly trust these companies in their battle against "fake news" as it can inadvertently (or, purposefully) lead to censorship. Well, I suppose it is censorship in any case.

Re: Google blocked every one of the WSWS’s 45 top search terms

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

...how far does "propaganda and misinformation" go? Political parties also put out propaganda and misinformation, as do businesses and individuals.

Marketing is not the same as propaganda and straight up lying about historical facts. If you claim there weren't famines in the Soviet Union, you're either a liar or a fool. I am fine with those being removed from Google. Separating the wheat from the chaff is the entire point of Google search. They should ban all disinformation sites, Fox News, Breitbart, and InfoWars would be a good start to add to WSWS. Salon and…

But what if someone, somehow, through some extraordinary bit of research, does find evidence contradicting a widely supported claim? Not the soviet famine claim, but e.g. David Glantz did research and found that the early years of the USSR's involvement in World War II had been substantially misrepresented due to the USSR censoring many of those records to save face. Prior to his publication of that work, it was the "truth" that the USSR launched no major offensives until 1942-3. After the publication of that work, that was no longer the "truth" (the USSR had in fact launched many offensives and then purged them from the historical record in order to appear infallible).

Re: Google blocked every one of the WSWS’s 45 top search terms

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't quite understand the snark in your response - were you, unlike the purported cheering liberals, fond of the purveyors of fake news?

I don't believe it was ever about "fake news", rather it's about establishing "acceptable opinion". As the article said: > In a set of guidelines issued to Google evaluators in March, elaborated in April by Google VP of Engineering Ben Gomes, the company instructed its search evaluators to flag pages returning “conspiracy theories” or “upsetting” content unless “the query clearly indicates the user is seeking an alte…

In this context, I read "alternative viewpoint" as a polite way of saying "complete bullshit".

Re: Google blocked every one of the WSWS’s 45 top search terms

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Meh, I have a hard time caring about this because I want Google to block propaganda and misinformation. From my experience, socialist websites and forums tend to ignore, rewrite, or white wash the history of communism in Russia/USSR, Venezuela, and even North Korea. So much so that the No True Scotsman fallacy should just be the No True Socialist fallacy. Go check out /r/socialism if you want your head to spin. Accor…

so much reductionism, there isn't one left. there're factions and they do have different opinions on the previous political projects.

Sorry, but the tankies who think nothing bad has ever been done in the name of communism are just as foolish as the InfoWars junkies screaming about chem-trails.

Re: Google blocked every one of the WSWS’s 45 top search terms

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be very interesting to prove this, but their argument is mostly circumstantial so far.

The fact that Google is refusing to deny it is, in my view, pretty strong circumstantial evidence.

??? I'd be shocked if anyone who could comment was even were aware of the claim (until it hit the HN front page).

Re: Google blocked every one of the WSWS’s 45 top search terms

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When Google, Facebook, and others announced that they were banning "fake news", many on the left cheered. But it was probably naive to assume Google would limit itself to censoring political opinions with which one disagrees.

I don't quite understand the snark in your response - were you, unlike the purported cheering liberals, fond of the purveyors of fake news?

Fake news has become a loaded term.

There's actually fake news - person XYZ died (but not really), or satire websites (that people don't realize), or even more devious websites.

Then there's "fake news" which refers more to "I don't think that is news" news.

There's also "fake news" which refers to "That one news article made a mistake, so we can't trust any news from them now, they're fake" news.

The phrase has become as loaded as any SJW terms.

Re: Google blocked every one of the WSWS’s 45 top search terms

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>The WSWS has been blacklisted in searches dealing with history, and in particular historical topics related to the revolutionary struggles of the 20th century. These include the terms “Russian revolution,” “Bolshevik revolution” and “October revolution,” all of which returned results in the top 50 in April That's probably ... correct.

Why is that correct? Looking at their website they're currently running a lecture series/look back at the Russian revolution: http://www.wsws.org/en/special/1917/chronology.html None of it seems to be conspiracy theory or low-quality material.

It may not be but if Google's goal is to promote authoritative sources there's no reason to consider WSWS to be authoritative for those search terms, imo. I'm not saying I agree with their goal, just that this seems consistent with it, and I imagine that's what the reply was getting at.
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