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DigiCert to Acquire Symantec’s Website Security and Related PKI Solutions

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Re: DigiCert to Acquire Symantec’s Website Security and Related PKI Solutions

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I work in the financial infrastructure space, and while I'm no fan of Symantec, using Let's Encrypt would get me laughed out of the room by compliance and our auditors. Some checkboxes are ceremony, some have real purpose. One size does not fit all.

What about Let's Encrypt certificates make them non compliant to your auditors?

Maybe they pin to the CA certificate? In that case, it matters how much you trust the specific CA.

Re: DigiCert to Acquire Symantec’s Website Security and Related PKI Solutions

#22

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The message is that Symantec doesn't get to run a CA business anymore. Presumably the fact that a sale was somewhat necessary was priced into the purchase price.

They will own 30%of digicert. I think this deal should put digicert on a "one strike and you're out" zone as well. I don't understand what's going on. Digicert will give Symantec 800M+ cash and a 30% equity? And Symantec will generously allow the current digicert CEO to continue as the CEO of digicert? Doesn't look like Symantec is selling anything. Looks like Symantec is buying digicert from the owners of digicert.

Indeed. Classic reverse buyout to escape a bad name. It's complete bullshit and the browser vendors should see right through it.

Re: DigiCert to Acquire Symantec’s Website Security and Related PKI Solutions

#23

I'm a reseller for Digicert - they just sent an announcement email about this, here's the most interesting bit: "Earlier this year, the browsers proposed a plan to limit trust in Symantec certificates after discovering issues with how they were validating and issuing digital certificates. Importantly, we feel confident that this agreement will satisfy the needs of the browser community. DigiCert is communicating this…

You may want to come up with an escape plan then. If digicert can buy Symantec so that Symantec can escape censure what message does that send? At this point Symantec should be considered so radioactive that nobody would go near it for fear of contamination. Symantec betrayed all of us and digicert, in buying it and rewarding the behaviour is doing the same.

When Symantec bought Verisign it was making over $400million in net profits off of over $1.1 billion in revenue.

Symantec basically killed their golden goose are are now selling it off to another company at a huge discount. If they didn't do this there's a good chance their whole business would fall apart.

I'd consider losing potentially billions of dollars over the next few years to be a pretty solid message.

Re: DigiCert to Acquire Symantec’s Website Security and Related PKI Solutions

#24
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How is Symantec's cert business not a toxic asset given their historical practices?

I don't recall the exact details of their poor historical practices, but I think they at least had audited issuance, and reasonable control of their roots, although their intermediates issued questionable certificates?

If so, the new owner can relatively easily shut down issuance under the current pipelines of questionable quality; issue new intermediates from the root, to be used in the new owner's pipelines and to make it possible to revoke/detrust the old intermediates if more serious trust issues are uncovered in the previous practices. Then the new owner gets to enjoy the benefits of the previous customer base, and installed base of the roots and pins.

In short, as long as they do a good job of making a clean separation of issuing practices, it's not a toxic asset.

Re: DigiCert to Acquire Symantec’s Website Security and Related PKI Solutions

#25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work in the financial infrastructure space, and while I'm no fan of Symantec, using Let's Encrypt would get me laughed out of the room by compliance and our auditors. Some checkboxes are ceremony, some have real purpose. One size does not fit all.

What about Let's Encrypt certificates make them non compliant to your auditors?

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Re: DigiCert to Acquire Symantec’s Website Security and Related PKI Solutions

#26
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Eh ? About to be untrusted by google... interesting time to sell it.

Interesting time to buy it, I'd say.

As I mentioned above, when Symantec bought Verisign it was making over $440 million a year in profit (not revenue, profit).

Buying up their customers like this is huge for Digicert. They're getting a huge influx of paying customers at a steep discount. I'd expect Digicert to make billions off of this deal over the next decade.

Re: DigiCert to Acquire Symantec’s Website Security and Related PKI Solutions

#27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work in the financial infrastructure space, and while I'm no fan of Symantec, using Let's Encrypt would get me laughed out of the room by compliance and our auditors. Some checkboxes are ceremony, some have real purpose. One size does not fit all.

What about Let's Encrypt certificates make them non compliant to your auditors?

they didn't pay several million dollars to get added to the checklist

Re: DigiCert to Acquire Symantec’s Website Security and Related PKI Solutions

#28

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You seem to be conflating expectations and reality. They did kill the business, but Symantec was able to salvage part of it.

They should have been utterly destroyed; not parted out to the highest bidder. I want every Symantec shareholder to feel the pain of a zero share price for what they enabled.

Where once there was a Symantec CA system, now there is none. It is dead. It wasn't dead before. The thing that made it be dead? Google.

I think you're mostly arguing with claims I didn't make.

Re: DigiCert to Acquire Symantec’s Website Security and Related PKI Solutions

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They will own 30%of digicert. I think this deal should put digicert on a "one strike and you're out" zone as well. I don't understand what's going on. Digicert will give Symantec 800M+ cash and a 30% equity? And Symantec will generously allow the current digicert CEO to continue as the CEO of digicert? Doesn't look like Symantec is selling anything. Looks like Symantec is buying digicert from the owners of digicert.

Indeed. Classic reverse buyout to escape a bad name. It's complete bullshit and the browser vendors should see right through it.

It would be a "classic reverse buyout" if DigiCert was going to continue to operate the Symantec CA infrastructure. If it is not, then Google and Mozilla will have accomplished their most important objective, which is the elimination of insecure certificate issuers in current operation.

You clearly have other objectives you would like Google and Mozilla to accomplish for you, and I probably agree with many of them, but let's try to stay focused here.

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