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Are We Experimenting on Our Children with Soy Formula?

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Re: Are We Experimenting on Our Children with Soy Formula?

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Post by gervase »

deft wrote: post #6

Most animal feed is soy-based. What effect does that have? Also, why would a vegan/vegetarian be against breast milk exactly? And finally: does anyone have any info on the effect of large soy consumption on males? I've been vegetarian for 6 months and trying to go vegan (mostly for past 1.5 months) so my soy consumption is at an all time high. Thanks!

There are several studies on the effects of soy-based estrogenic effects on men; here are three:

Hormonal effects of soy in premenopausal women and men

http://jn.nutrition.org/content/132/3/570S.long

Effects of replacing meat with soyabean in the diet on sex hormone concentrations in healthy adult males

https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/c...

Effect of a phytoestrogen food supplement on reproductive health in normal males

http://www.clinsci.org/content/100/6/613.full-text.pdf

Re: Are We Experimenting on Our Children with Soy Formula?

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Post by bitJericho »

jobu wrote: post #12

That whole article is written like irresponsible click-bait journalism. After raising four kids I can take shit like this with a grain of salt, but as a new parent I would've freaked out and overreacted. When two of my kids were babies they had bad reactions to normal formula, and weren't gaining enough weight with breastmilk. Soy formula was the only other option and not giving it to them likely would've been worse…

Same here. My son couldn't hold down a bottle. Soy was the only option for him and he turned out fine.

Re: Are We Experimenting on Our Children with Soy Formula?

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Post by marze »

deft wrote: post #6

Most animal feed is soy-based. What effect does that have? Also, why would a vegan/vegetarian be against breast milk exactly? And finally: does anyone have any info on the effect of large soy consumption on males? I've been vegetarian for 6 months and trying to go vegan (mostly for past 1.5 months) so my soy consumption is at an all time high. Thanks!

This article quotes a guy who thinks it had an effect:

http://www.menshealth.com/nutrition/soys-negative-effects

Re: Are We Experimenting on Our Children with Soy Formula?

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Post by taberiand »

r2d2klapa wrote: post #13
angersock wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Human breast milk? You know, as nature intended?

Of course. My daughter is 18 months old and fed exclusively with breast milk. We want to wean her soon, so we are looking for alternatives.

Solids and water?

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Post by deusum »

overcast wrote: post #19
deft wrote: post #6

Most animal feed is soy-based. What effect does that have? Also, why would a vegan/vegetarian be against breast milk exactly? And finally: does anyone have any info on the effect of large soy consumption on males? I've been vegetarian for 6 months and trying to go vegan (mostly for past 1.5 months) so my soy consumption is at an all time high. Thanks!

It's pretty common knowledge that soy contains phytoestrogens, which behave similar to estrogen.

It's less common knowledge that this is a myth.

Re: Are We Experimenting on Our Children with Soy Formula?

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Post by bitJericho »

r2d2klapa wrote: post #13
angersock wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Human breast milk? You know, as nature intended?

Of course. My daughter is 18 months old and fed exclusively with breast milk. We want to wean her soon, so we are looking for alternatives.

at 18 months she should be ready to switch over entirely. Soy would not be appropriate for a child unless she has milk allergies. Feed her whole milk, it's incredibly important for her brain development.

Re: Are We Experimenting on Our Children with Soy Formula?

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Post by delinka »

jobu wrote: post #12

That whole article is written like irresponsible click-bait journalism. After raising four kids I can take shit like this with a grain of salt, but as a new parent I would've freaked out and overreacted. When two of my kids were babies they had bad reactions to normal formula, and weren't gaining enough weight with breastmilk. Soy formula was the only other option and not giving it to them likely would've been worse…

My daughter couldn't even have soy milk. Nutramigen is where we ended up for her. Stuff's expensive, but it worked well for her.
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