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UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018

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Re: UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Likely this will be implemented at the ISP level, I expect 99.99 of the sites would not care otherwise.

You still cannot effectively block every adult site even at an ISP level. There will always be smaller sites on the fringe that get missed. It's basically the same problem as preventing online piracy.

I confirm, their mobile blocking in the UK does not work very well, sometimes it also even blocks non-porn websites randomly.

Re: UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018

#22
This, if enacted, will do more than any effort by the EFF or others to enhance online privacy. VPN usage, TOR and bitcoin/ethereum acceptance online will skyrocket.

After all, what the UK government is proposing is basically to learn its citizens from an early age how to evade censorship by giving them a proper incentive to figure out how to go under the radar.

Re: UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018

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post #16

They might as well call it Operation Could-Not-Possibly-Go-Wrong. >Companies breaking the rules set out in the Digital Economy Act face being blocked by their internet provider. Seems to imply it would be the burden of individual sites. I'm sure many of which already have low margins since advertising in this space is extremely hard. So I'm going to guess most of them would sooner IP block all of Europe before bother…

A company operating outside the UK's jurisdiction wouldn't be affected at all from my reading of that. The UK could direct UK ISPs to block noncompliant sites entirely, but then they're in the position of trying to enumerate every site in the world that hosts porn.

Good luck with that.

Re: UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018

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How will this work with image search in Google, Bing, Yandex, etc.? Last time I checked you only need to enter an explicit search term and uncheck the filter, and you're flooded in porn. Will they be forced to make their filters mandatory if the IP number looks as if it comes from the UK? How will this work with porn sites outside the UK (such as most of them)? Will they all be blocked by default on the basis of some…

It seems like governments have decided that if you're on the Internet, you effectively have to follow the intersection of all laws from all countries that are also on the Internet.

I think looking at IP ranges is pretty effective actually. Google already does send people to different regional sites based on where they're coming from.

Re: UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's in the article - sites will be required to request credit card details.

Except they quote gambling and age verification there (UK) is not related to credit cards.

I appreciate that, but various other reports do seem to indicate that credit card details will be required. We'll have to see, though.

Re: UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018

#29
post #5

I worry this will just funnel kids onto the kinds of porn web-sites that are unlikely to follow government regulations anyway, as they might have more damaging content. Are there any cases where something like this has been rolled out elsewhere where the effects can be looked at?

Alternatively they'll (continue to) go to Reddit, Instagram, Facebook, etc - the sort of sites that this law will have no impact on.

Now that you mention it, pretty much every website with user content has porn on it. So this regulation will either ban those as well, or cause people watching "professional Hollywood porn" to instead watch user-generated porn, which doesn't solve the problem the regulation is trying to solve at all.

As a small website owner (not a porn website owner though), I really don't care if a country blocks my website because of silly censorship laws. Sure, it hurts finances a bit, but if a government truly represents the people (yeah right), then the people don't want to see my website anyway, right?! I wonder if larger websites like Reddit, forum boards, and file hosting sites will follow this same attitude.

Re: UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018

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post #26
post #16

They might as well call it Operation Could-Not-Possibly-Go-Wrong. >Companies breaking the rules set out in the Digital Economy Act face being blocked by their internet provider. Seems to imply it would be the burden of individual sites. I'm sure many of which already have low margins since advertising in this space is extremely hard. So I'm going to guess most of them would sooner IP block all of Europe before bother…

A company operating outside the UK's jurisdiction wouldn't be affected at all from my reading of that. The UK could direct UK ISPs to block noncompliant sites entirely, but then they're in the position of trying to enumerate every site in the world that hosts porn. Good luck with that.

>but then they're in the position of trying to enumerate every site in the world that hosts porn

HAH.

No problem. I have a succinct filter that covers most of them:

    0.0.0.0/0
...The only real flaw is that it doesn't cover IPv6.
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