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Introducing Backup and Sync for Google Photos and Google Drive

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Re: Introducing Backup and Sync for Google Photos and Google Drive

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Because Google Photos does not have an Android TV app, I periodically do a full Google Takeout to pull all my images so that I may rsync newer ones over to my NAS so that they appear in Plex and my wife can then view them on the Google TV. Can you stop reinventing things that already exist, and perhaps fix things that are real customer pain points. Like not being able to view Photos on an Android TV, like not being a…

These "real customer pain points" seem pretty specific and isolated to me.

Re: Introducing Backup and Sync for Google Photos and Google Drive

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What surprises me most is the fact that there seems to be very little interest in meta syncing. I have far more files to store than there is capacity on my SSD, and yet, most of the cloud storage providers seem to offer only full or selective sync capabilities. What I would like to have is the ability to browse my entire file repository and "pin" certain files to make sure I can have the most critical stuff offline,…

I think Microsoft rolled this out as standard for OneDrive in a version of Windows (8? 8.1?), only to revert the change due to customer confusion.

Re: Introducing Backup and Sync for Google Photos and Google Drive

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post #21
post #18

Because Google Photos does not have an Android TV app, I periodically do a full Google Takeout to pull all my images so that I may rsync newer ones over to my NAS so that they appear in Plex and my wife can then view them on the Google TV. Can you stop reinventing things that already exist, and perhaps fix things that are real customer pain points. Like not being able to view Photos on an Android TV, like not being a…

These "real customer pain points" seem pretty specific and isolated to me.

https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/play/86WVa8b_...

1,022 comments about a single aspect of the G Suite account restriction, relating to a single Google product (Play Music)... in this 1 thread alone.

Doesn't seem that specific and isolated to me.

Re: Introducing Backup and Sync for Google Photos and Google Drive

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post #18

Because Google Photos does not have an Android TV app, I periodically do a full Google Takeout to pull all my images so that I may rsync newer ones over to my NAS so that they appear in Plex and my wife can then view them on the Google TV. Can you stop reinventing things that already exist, and perhaps fix things that are real customer pain points. Like not being able to view Photos on an Android TV, like not being a…

It's not going to be easy to just put Google Photos on Android TV. Android TV has no concept of accounts or privacy so the only way it could really work right now is to either open up the entire user's photos to anyone currently using the TV or invent some sort of hard to use scheme such as only displaying photos "tagged" a certain way as public/tv which most people probably won't do. Or they could ask for a PIN each time which is annoying.

Solving that issue is going to take a re-work of the Android TV user experience. A lot of apps have this problem such as Drive, Dropbox, Docs, etc. There's no current way to have an app with personal data be usable on a public device like a TV.

>or the big one, the fact that GSuite accounts are crippled and the majority of new products cannot be used by those with GSuite accounts or can only be used in a severely crippled way.

You have to remember that GSuite, as an app for businesses and education, has a lot more restraints and big hairy legal and ethical issues for every single feature than the consumer versions of the apps. Each thing Google makes needs to be looked at from a very different angle and lots of decisions have to be made for it to be made available for business use. The use cases are very different. Money is handled differently. Lots of access controls need to be created for admins in each app available in GSuite. It's not a trivial amount of work.

Re: Introducing Backup and Sync for Google Photos and Google Drive

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post #22

What surprises me most is the fact that there seems to be very little interest in meta syncing. I have far more files to store than there is capacity on my SSD, and yet, most of the cloud storage providers seem to offer only full or selective sync capabilities. What I would like to have is the ability to browse my entire file repository and "pin" certain files to make sure I can have the most critical stuff offline,…

I think Microsoft rolled this out as standard for OneDrive in a version of Windows (8? 8.1?), only to revert the change due to customer confusion.

They're bringing it back: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/06/onedr...

Re: Introducing Backup and Sync for Google Photos and Google Drive

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look into Drive File Stream.

Looks interesting! Any pointers on how one could actually get it though? :) At this moment it seems only available for business users who opt in for the early adopter program. Source: https://gsuite.google.com/campaigns/index__drive-fs-eap.html

From the sound of it they're only going to make it available to business/enterprise customers. Ouch. Happy about it for my gsuite account but not so much for my personal account.

Re: Introducing Backup and Sync for Google Photos and Google Drive

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If only Google Drive's app actually worked reliably (see the discussion from the day before yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14732023 -- "It's been 191 days since Google Drive worked for me") this might be worth trying out.

Since they can't even reliably sync the Drive folders they claim they can, who would trust their "backup" of the rest of the system?

Re: Introducing Backup and Sync for Google Photos and Google Drive

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I dont get what's new here or am i confused? I have used many services over the years, OneDrive from Microsoft, Google Drive / Photo sync thing, dropbox, Amazon storage, etc. Honestly being that I work at Microsoft I am obviously going to have a bias a bit, but this stuff is not about my work its about my life and how to stay synced across my Windows Phone, Windows 10 devices (i have a few), my iPhone, my iPad, etc.…

I won't trust OneDrive after they cancelled their unlimited plans. Yes, I understand it's unrealistic for such a thing to exist but Microsoft offered it anyway, then took it away when people actually used it.

Plus having it forced on me through Windows makes me instantly hate it.

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