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A massive volcano that scientists can't find

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Re: A massive volcano that scientists can't find

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post #17

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I agree, I thought the Olympic swimming pool was the only unit of measure for journalism.

In the UK, they used to use the volume of Wembley Stadium (a well-known sports ground), but then it was demolished and rebuilt.

so if you're reading an old article using Wembley Stadiums as the unit of measurement you should have some sort of B.D (Before Demolishment) and A.R (After Rebuild) dating scheme to keep it straight.

Re: A massive volcano that scientists can't find

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post #17

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I agree, I thought the Olympic swimming pool was the only unit of measure for journalism.

In the UK, they used to use the volume of Wembley Stadium (a well-known sports ground), but then it was demolished and rebuilt.

I hear they had to do it because it was way "too decimal" as a unit which was unacceptable :).

Re: A massive volcano that scientists can't find

#23
post #7

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River of fire comes out of the ground. Hmm. Where did it come from?

There must be a real hellhole down there...

The concept of Hell, being inferred from volcanic eruptions, is not terribly unscientific.

Re: A massive volcano that scientists can't find

#24
post #18

Mighty interesting, sure. Still, I can't stand these awe-driven narratives. The formula is getting old and in the jumping from one wow to the next a lot of the real questions and facts are left half-explained. And as somebody already pointed out, the units... football fields, Hiroshima bombs and the area of California... they should standardize those already, right? Journalists could use abbreviations and the rest of…

Exactly! When future historians read back at writing from our time period - if it is still around - then how do you think they'll characterize it?

Re: A massive volcano that scientists can't find

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post #8

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Apparently the volume of the ESB is about 1e6 m³. So that's about 37e12 m³ of magma. But yeah, using a weird unit of measurement no one even knows and using 37 million as a factor pretty much guarantees that no one can relate this to anything.

> using a weird unit of measurement no one even knows and using 37 million as a factor pretty much guarantees that no one can relate this to anything Manhattan has a land area of 59.1 square kilometers [1]. 37e12 m³ of magma would fill the land area of Manhattan to over 600 kilometers, i.e. well past the boundary of space. Alternatively, it would fill California's 424,000 thousand square kilometers to 100 meters, or…

> Alternatively, it would fill California's 424,000 thousand square kilometers to 100 meters

That sounds like a hell of a lot more than 37 million times the volume of the Empire State Building.

Re: A massive volcano that scientists can't find

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> using a weird unit of measurement no one even knows and using 37 million as a factor pretty much guarantees that no one can relate this to anything Manhattan has a land area of 59.1 square kilometers [1]. 37e12 m³ of magma would fill the land area of Manhattan to over 600 kilometers, i.e. well past the boundary of space. Alternatively, it would fill California's 424,000 thousand square kilometers to 100 meters, or…

> Alternatively, it would fill California's 424,000 thousand square kilometers to 100 meters That sounds like a hell of a lot more than 37 million times the volume of the Empire State Building.

The Empire State buildings base is almost 2 acres x 443.2 m tall and a square km is 247 acres. 2 * 443m * 37 million / 424 million (424,000 thousand) / 247 ~= 0.3m so covered to the depth of 1 foot. Which seems more reasonable.

ED: Ahh, they had wrong area for California. It's 424,000 square kilometers not "424,000 thousand square kilometers"

Re: A massive volcano that scientists can't find

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently the volume of the ESB is about 1e6 m³. So that's about 37e12 m³ of magma. But yeah, using a weird unit of measurement no one even knows and using 37 million as a factor pretty much guarantees that no one can relate this to anything.

> using a weird unit of measurement no one even knows and using 37 million as a factor pretty much guarantees that no one can relate this to anything Manhattan has a land area of 59.1 square kilometers [1]. 37e12 m³ of magma would fill the land area of Manhattan to over 600 kilometers, i.e. well past the boundary of space. Alternatively, it would fill California's 424,000 thousand square kilometers to 100 meters, or…

Is this really correct? You'd think with modern imaging it would be fairly easy to spot a 100m high magma formation the size of california. How does magma even flow with such volume, it sounds like it would create an island that everyone would know the name of.

Re: A massive volcano that scientists can't find

#29
post #6

> they estimated that Kuwae’s eruption had released vast quantities of magma, enough to fill the Empire State Building 37 million times over This is a unit of journalistic measurement I have never come across before.

Everybody knows that the empire state building is a unit of measure for length!

Re: A massive volcano that scientists can't find

#30
post #18

Mighty interesting, sure. Still, I can't stand these awe-driven narratives. The formula is getting old and in the jumping from one wow to the next a lot of the real questions and facts are left half-explained. And as somebody already pointed out, the units... football fields, Hiroshima bombs and the area of California... they should standardize those already, right? Journalists could use abbreviations and the rest of…

Exactly! When future historians read back at writing from our time period - if it is still around - then how do you think they'll characterize it?

ha! Good question, I guess they'll say its magical realism with strong late-cuneiform influences, judging from what little is left from the devastating eruption from a vulcano no one ever found.
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