OK, so now there is a "fitbit for car".
Yesterday it was "Uber for Garbage".
Service X (where X is an existing hit) for Area Y is getting popular.
Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda
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#222016: Comma.ai will compete with Tesla, Google, Mobileye[1] 2017: Comma.ai will compete with ScanGauge hm. ( http://www.businessinsider.com/george-hotz-techcrunch-disrup... )
he's answering in the comments, he says typical OBD interfaces are slow and fragile, which I surely believe. Is it me or is his ego made of titanium ? the reporter quotes "we're 3, waymo, tesla and us" .. yet he's building a cuter, faster obdII bridge I don't get it.
Those are the three players with actual networks of deployed self driving cars today. Granted, we are in third with 73 cars (and 1000's on chffr), but well ahead of every other startup. Waymo has around 200, we expect to pass them by the end of the year.
In addition to this interface, we also give away source code to a driving agent: https://github.com/commaai/openpilot
Looks like this when running (video from a user): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VN1YcC83nA
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#23Excited about this. I've been looking for something like this for a while. Tried a couple of different types of OBD-II adapters from Ebay, but trying to get data from them over bluetooth or wifi was just a pain. Panda with a direct interface to my laptop will enable me to get all the information I've been trying to get from the OBD-II port of my car, specifically steering angles, acceleration and braking. Using them…
Look into PLX Devices Kiwi 3 - probably one of the best out there, if not the best. I tried the el-cheapo interfaces, and it was hit or miss with my vehicles.
So I said "f-it" and dropped the coin for the original wired Kiwi, and that worked perfectly.
When they announced the Kiwi 3 kickstarter, I jumped on that with funding, and it works great - but with Bluetooth; it's a quality device. You get what you pay for.
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#24Hotz is quoted as saying in the article, "there are only three real competitors: Waymo, Tesla and us." That's total bullshit. There are so many companies seriously working on autonomous vehicles, such as GM Cruise, Auroa Innovation, Drive.ai, Zoox, Nuro.ai, nuTonomy, Varden Labs, AImotive, Ford, and Nvidia Edit, because George is on here: George, I want to like you, because I think your tech is really good (the stree…
There is a TWIST episode with this guy on it, and he comes of as a massively arrogant prick. The dude who created the first iPhone jailbreak in his teens and got famous at it.
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#25This is very exciting. I've used an Automatic adapter after seeing the HN discount and the data is very interesting.
Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can find similar products that work over bluetooth for under $10 on Amazon. I use an old smartphone on a mount to show all of the same information using a third-party app - no need for an $88 proprietary dongle. There doesn't seem to be anything new about this product other than marketing and a high price tag. I'd love for that to not be the case, however. Maybe I'm missing some features of it.
From the README[0]: It supports 3x CAN, 2x LIN, and 1x GMLAN. It also charges a phone. On the computer side, it has both USB and Wi-Fi. It uses an STM32F413 for low level stuff and an ESP8266 for Wi-Fi. They are connected over high speed SPI, so the panda is actually capable of dumping the full contents of the busses over Wi-Fi, unlike every other dongle on amazon. ELM327 is weak, panda is strong. https://github.com/…
Interesting. Seems to be more of an enthusiast data-focused product rather than something aimed towards traditional car-folk then. Might be interesting to play around with even if you don't want to contribute the data back to comma.ai
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#27TL;DR: it's a device that gathers metrics from the car sensors. The product is aimed at hackers and car enthusiasts. You want to know your top speed, 0 - 60 etc? This might be the device for you. Afaik there's already products out there that do the same thing. This could be at a lower price point though.
ODB2 Bluetooth readers for Smartphones can be had for $10 [1]. I guess the hard part is writing the software that logs all the data. Currently most Android apps simply display the data and don't log it. The logging/software aspect of this is certainly where the value is added. [1] https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_9?url=search-alias...
Not sure if you're interested in such things, but I've written a Python data acquisition framework (and a shitty GUI for my RaspPi) that works with those cheapo $10 dongles that I'll be releasing under the MIT license as soon as I can be bothered.
Main reason I haven't released it yet is that the connection management, while quite resilient, is so hackish that I am bit embarrassed by it.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
he's answering in the comments, he says typical OBD interfaces are slow and fragile, which I surely believe. Is it me or is his ego made of titanium ? the reporter quotes "we're 3, waymo, tesla and us" .. yet he's building a cuter, faster obdII bridge I don't get it.
Those are the three players with actual networks of deployed self driving cars today. Granted, we are in third with 73 cars (and 1000's on chffr), but well ahead of every other startup. Waymo has around 200, we expect to pass them by the end of the year. In addition to this interface, we also give away source code to a driving agent: https://github.com/commaai/openpilot Looks like this when running (video from a user…
Man this is still a cute OBD2 bridge isn't it ?
Is your plan to release pieces of a self driving kit gradually and crowdsource through early adopter kind of customers(or collaborator in a way) ?
I'm sorry but the hardest parts are still missing and reading you're competing with actual companies with serious power (brain and money) it's more than curious to stay polite.
ps: also waymon fleet might be 200, but if they inherited Google past years of data they have tons of terrain and sensors data. I mean wat.
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#29I experimented with OBD-II devices for a while, paired with a phone app like Torque, and I found that the lower-level information (e.g. data about any particular air sensor) just wasn't interesting or useful to me. And other useful info (e.g. speed) I can get from my dash or other sources. Where these devices come in extremely handy, however, is by allowing you to look up the opaque fault codes that your car's comput…
Some mechanics charge you $120 literally just to plug in their OBD2 adapter and read the code, so yeah, even if it saves you one diagnostic fee, it's a bargain. Note that Hotz is claiming his readers will do a lot more than the conventional ones you've seen before. Whether or not that's true remains to be seen.
Most auto parts stores will read the codes for you for free. Some will even loan you tools to fix your car. They are in the business of selling parts and are happy to sell you whatever part you need to fix the problem.
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#30So it's an ODB II dongle that made from what looks like parts from Sparkfun and 3d printed case (Although, that's bit of wild speculation on my part), sold at apparently 8x the price of competitors. Sure the ODB exports out some common info, but isn't most of it encrypted and vendor specific? Also, calling this and a camera "a self driving car kit" is an overstatement even for Silly-Con Valley.