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Re: How much do hackers at the CIA/NSA/FBI make?

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Post by draw_down » Thu, Jul 06, 2017, 4:16 PM UTC

emerman wrote: post #15

Speaking from personal experience (dating an employee) I can tell you it is not necessarily north of 100K. Most I have spoken with from NSA make less thank 100k and that's with 5+ years at the agency, non-management.

Yikes, hope those bennies are pretty sweet.

Re: How much do hackers at the CIA/NSA/FBI make?

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Post by strictnein » Thu, Jul 06, 2017, 4:25 PM UTC

For the NSA, they list salary ranges on the job postings.

Examples:

   Cryptographic Vuln. Analyst - Entry: $68,586 - $85,464
   Cryptographic Vuln. Analyst - Mid-Level: $79,334 - $105,663
   Computer Network Analyst  - Entry/Mid: Same
   Systems Vulnerability Analyst - Entry/Mid: Same 
   Capabilities Development Specialist - Entry/Mid: Same

The range for Senior positions is $94,796 - $145,629

There's also signing bonuses available, and language bonuses if you know foreign languages that are in demand. They also adjust the pay for living in Hawaii, since it's more expensive.

The CIA pays a little better, but it's more expensive to live near there.

Re: How much do hackers at the CIA/NSA/FBI make?

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Post by notananthem » Thu, Jul 06, 2017, 4:27 PM UTC

strictnein wrote: post #22

For the NSA, they list salary ranges on the job postings. Examples: Cryptographic Vuln. Analyst - Entry: $68,586 - $85,464 Cryptographic Vuln. Analyst - Mid-Level: $79,334 - $105,663 Computer Network Analyst - Entry/Mid: Same Systems Vulnerability Analyst - Entry/Mid: Same Capabilities Development Specialist - Entry/Mid: Same The range for Senior positions is $94,796 - $145,629 There's also signing bonuses available,…

damn thats terrible

Re: How much do hackers at the CIA/NSA/FBI make?

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Post by grouseway » Thu, Jul 06, 2017, 4:30 PM UTC

strictnein wrote: post #22

For the NSA, they list salary ranges on the job postings. Examples: Cryptographic Vuln. Analyst - Entry: $68,586 - $85,464 Cryptographic Vuln. Analyst - Mid-Level: $79,334 - $105,663 Computer Network Analyst - Entry/Mid: Same Systems Vulnerability Analyst - Entry/Mid: Same Capabilities Development Specialist - Entry/Mid: Same The range for Senior positions is $94,796 - $145,629 There's also signing bonuses available,…

Of course if you work as an infiltration plant at a 3rd party I would assume you can add a second salary on top of that.

Re: How much do hackers at the CIA/NSA/FBI make?

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Post by strictnein » Thu, Jul 06, 2017, 4:31 PM UTC

seth17 wrote: post #19

techjuice wrote: post #3

Hopefully the following helps, it is from research I have done comparing the public sector to the private sector pay and compensation over time, specifically comparing intelligence community pay to regular government agency pay and compensation for the independent agencies (FCC, SEC, CIA, CFTC, FTC, GSA, USPS, SSA, etc.) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_agencies_of_the_Un... If they are government employee…

What is the educational path to becoming a CISO? Would you go into IT or CS?

Either. Then get an MBA.

Re: How much do hackers at the CIA/NSA/FBI make?

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Post by ceejayoz » Thu, Jul 06, 2017, 4:31 PM UTC

notananthem wrote: post #23

strictnein wrote: post #22

For the NSA, they list salary ranges on the job postings. Examples: Cryptographic Vuln. Analyst - Entry: $68,586 - $85,464 Cryptographic Vuln. Analyst - Mid-Level: $79,334 - $105,663 Computer Network Analyst - Entry/Mid: Same Systems Vulnerability Analyst - Entry/Mid: Same Capabilities Development Specialist - Entry/Mid: Same The range for Senior positions is $94,796 - $145,629 There's also signing bonuses available,…

damn thats terrible

Cost of living should be less than SV, and don't discount the stability of government employment and stuff like pensions and good healthcare plans.

Re: How much do hackers at the CIA/NSA/FBI make?

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Post by openasocket » Thu, Jul 06, 2017, 4:33 PM UTC

notananthem wrote: post #23

strictnein wrote: post #22

For the NSA, they list salary ranges on the job postings. Examples: Cryptographic Vuln. Analyst - Entry: $68,586 - $85,464 Cryptographic Vuln. Analyst - Mid-Level: $79,334 - $105,663 Computer Network Analyst - Entry/Mid: Same Systems Vulnerability Analyst - Entry/Mid: Same Capabilities Development Specialist - Entry/Mid: Same The range for Senior positions is $94,796 - $145,629 There's also signing bonuses available,…

damn thats terrible

It's not a job you go into for the money. They're making like twice the median income for the US, that's more than enough to live comfortably. Frankly, you don't get involved in that line of work without some serious patriotism.

Re: How much do hackers at the CIA/NSA/FBI make?

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Post by TheRealPomax » Thu, Jul 06, 2017, 4:34 PM UTC

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For those of us who don't know what any of that means, can you add $ figures to those terms?

Re: How much do hackers at the CIA/NSA/FBI make?

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Post by strictnein » Thu, Jul 06, 2017, 4:34 PM UTC

notananthem wrote: post #23

strictnein wrote: post #22

For the NSA, they list salary ranges on the job postings. Examples: Cryptographic Vuln. Analyst - Entry: $68,586 - $85,464 Cryptographic Vuln. Analyst - Mid-Level: $79,334 - $105,663 Computer Network Analyst - Entry/Mid: Same Systems Vulnerability Analyst - Entry/Mid: Same Capabilities Development Specialist - Entry/Mid: Same The range for Senior positions is $94,796 - $145,629 There's also signing bonuses available,…

damn thats terrible

A lot of those positions aren't in high cost areas, especially if you don't have kids. The area near Fort Meade, MD isn't too bad. San Antonio, TX is reasonable. Aurora, CO (just outside of Denver) isn't bad either, neither is Augusta, Georgia. A starting salary of $70-$80k for a recent college grad goes a long ways in those areas.

Re: How much do hackers at the CIA/NSA/FBI make?

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Post by rbobby » Thu, Jul 06, 2017, 4:36 PM UTC

grouseway wrote: post #24

strictnein wrote: post #22

For the NSA, they list salary ranges on the job postings. Examples: Cryptographic Vuln. Analyst - Entry: $68,586 - $85,464 Cryptographic Vuln. Analyst - Mid-Level: $79,334 - $105,663 Computer Network Analyst - Entry/Mid: Same Systems Vulnerability Analyst - Entry/Mid: Same Capabilities Development Specialist - Entry/Mid: Same The range for Senior positions is $94,796 - $145,629 There's also signing bonuses available,…

Of course if you work as an infiltration plant at a 3rd party I would assume you can add a second salary on top of that.

Or a third salary if you're a triple agent :)