Retro ThinkPad: It’s Alive • Hacker News Board

Re: Retro ThinkPad: It’s Alive

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Post by pasbesoin » Thu, Jun 22, 2017, 8:57 PM UTC

mikejmoffitt wrote: post #20

pasbesoin wrote: post #14

I hope it will have retro-level screen quality (i.e. best in class). (And, put those, at least as a consistent option, into the rest of your professional line, Lenovo. Really, it's become ridiculous, at this point.) I really hope there will be no component/FRU lottery. I'd rather wait for the best part than worry whether I'll get the good LCD or the one that's washed out or with banding, perceptible PWM flicker, imag…

I hope not. Except for a few choice models (the T4-T6 era "FlexView" IPS panels), the screens in ThinkPads have not been exceptional at all. Even the IPS choices were a total lottery.

Good point. I guess I'm influenced by the ones that were good.

Make it a damned good panel, Lenovo.

How do we interact with our machines? Display, keyboard, trackpad, Touchpoint. If those are second class, our whole experience is going to be second class.

(Speakers, I can always plug in or hook up. And I don't use the webcam much; that may differ for others.)

Re: Retro ThinkPad: It’s Alive

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jun 22, 2017, 11:26 PM UTC

jchw wrote: post #8

phil21 wrote: post #7

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It used to have a cult-like following. I'm know some still exist, but everyone I know who would have quit a job over not being able to use a Thinkpad has long since moved on. Including myself. Those that remain are the types who will use 10 year old laptops willingly. Lenovo ruined the Thinkpad brand entirely. I'm hopeful for this old school return of a "quality tank of a laptop with a real keyboard" but we'll see. R…

I'm pretty disappointed with the specs on most Lenovo laptops anymore. Why does everyone put junk ULV processors in laptops nowadays? I'd die for a slightly thicker laptop that had good specs at a price that's more reasonable. No joke, you'd be much better with a used 2012 MBP than nearly any recent Thinkpad. I have an X1 Carbon that is just pathetic. With Apple going the direction it is, I really wish there was an a…

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Re: Retro ThinkPad: It’s Alive

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Post by jchw » Fri, Jun 23, 2017, 4:15 AM UTC

currysausage wrote: post #16

jchw wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty disappointed with the specs on most Lenovo laptops anymore. Why does everyone put junk ULV processors in laptops nowadays? I'd die for a slightly thicker laptop that had good specs at a price that's more reasonable. No joke, you'd be much better with a used 2012 MBP than nearly any recent Thinkpad. I have an X1 Carbon that is just pathetic. With Apple going the direction it is, I really wish there was an a…

> Why does everyone put junk ULV processors in laptops nowadays? Because nowadays they are up to usual tasks while allowing long battery life and light, compact devices. If you want more than a U processor, the T470p and the P51/71 are for you (Core i7-7820HQ or even Xeon E3-1535M v6 possible).

I understand that _most people_ aren't going to need big processors. But truth be told, I had a lot of trouble finding something that even had a remotely good processor that didn't start over $1200. It feels like a lot of laptops marketed toward professionals are now coming with ULV, and that makes it hard to find laptops that are actually suitable for my heavy usage. (I since switched to a desktop because of this exact problem.)

But, now that you pointed it out, the T470p looks excellent. Browsing their site, I would've never found this, or at least I certainly didn't a while back when I was in the market.

Re: Retro ThinkPad: It’s Alive

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Post by currysausage » Fri, Jun 23, 2017, 6:36 AM UTC

jchw wrote: post #23

currysausage wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why does everyone put junk ULV processors in laptops nowadays? Because nowadays they are up to usual tasks while allowing long battery life and light, compact devices. If you want more than a U processor, the T470p and the P51/71 are for you (Core i7-7820HQ or even Xeon E3-1535M v6 possible).

I understand that _most people_ aren't going to need big processors. But truth be told, I had a lot of trouble finding something that even had a remotely good processor that didn't start over $1200. It feels like a lot of laptops marketed toward professionals are now coming with ULV, and that makes it hard to find laptops that are actually suitable for my heavy usage. (I since switched to a desktop because of this ex…

> Browsing their site, I would've never found this

I don't blame you, the Lenovo website is utter crap in almost every respect.