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Ableton Live Redesign

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Re: Ableton Live Redesign

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Post by 33degrees »

anonova wrote: post #16

I don't really have a problem with the UI; I want Ableton to fix the other annoyances first: * Saving the project resets the undo history. A someone who frequently saves, this is super frustrating. * No normal zoom controls. You have to use the "minimap" at the top. * Only a single project can be open at once, which makes copying from old projects tedious unless you shuffle files around into your current project. * T…

Have you tried Bitwig? I haven't but I believe it does address a few of these things

Re: Ableton Live Redesign

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Post by crmd »

anonova wrote: post #16

I don't really have a problem with the UI; I want Ableton to fix the other annoyances first: * Saving the project resets the undo history. A someone who frequently saves, this is super frustrating. * No normal zoom controls. You have to use the "minimap" at the top. * Only a single project can be open at once, which makes copying from old projects tedious unless you shuffle files around into your current project. * T…

Live customer since 4.0. Spot on.

Re: Ableton Live Redesign

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Post by brandonmenc »

anonova wrote: post #16

I don't really have a problem with the UI; I want Ableton to fix the other annoyances first: * Saving the project resets the undo history. A someone who frequently saves, this is super frustrating. * No normal zoom controls. You have to use the "minimap" at the top. * Only a single project can be open at once, which makes copying from old projects tedious unless you shuffle files around into your current project. * T…

MPE (Multidimensional Polyphonic Expression) is also sorely needed.

Re: Ableton Live Redesign

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Post by nkozyra »

First: what a phenomenal approach to a company. Shows a personal connection to the company and product that I'd bet is lacking in some current employees.

Second: I like the design but: is it just me or does this look a whole lot like Logic?

Re: Ableton Live Redesign

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Post by rhizome »

ryan-allen wrote: post #19
JDiculous wrote: post #18

The worst UI flaw of Ableton is its atrocious piano roll. They need to make it more like FL Studio's piano roll - left click to enter a note and hold it down to adjust length, right click to delete (yes there's draw mode, but it doesn't let you do that)

I find myself swapping from draw to regular mode with B a lot, and using the arrow keys to adjust things. It's a bit annoying... I thing piano rolls are pretty antiquated in general, most people aren't writing chromatic pieces, so I'd like to see something that was more of a guiding force in programming within certain bounds of western music theory. I'm a programmer so I guess I could make it happen!

You could use a wavetable LFO with Autotune to quantize the pitch (if necessary or desired) to whatever mode you like.

Re: Ableton Live Redesign

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Post by foxhill »

anonova wrote: post #16

I don't really have a problem with the UI; I want Ableton to fix the other annoyances first: * Saving the project resets the undo history. A someone who frequently saves, this is super frustrating. * No normal zoom controls. You have to use the "minimap" at the top. * Only a single project can be open at once, which makes copying from old projects tedious unless you shuffle files around into your current project. * T…

from the other side, as a plugin developer, it frustrates me no end that Live doesn't support VST3. i wish they would fix this.

Re: Ableton Live Redesign

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Post by Cshelton »

33degrees wrote: post #21
anonova wrote: post #16

I don't really have a problem with the UI; I want Ableton to fix the other annoyances first: * Saving the project resets the undo history. A someone who frequently saves, this is super frustrating. * No normal zoom controls. You have to use the "minimap" at the top. * Only a single project can be open at once, which makes copying from old projects tedious unless you shuffle files around into your current project. * T…

Have you tried Bitwig? I haven't but I believe it does address a few of these things

I've been using Bitwig and really like it. It still has a few bugs here and theee but I think the productivity gain over Ableton is good. I haven't come across anything Ableton does that Bitwig can't either.

Re: Ableton Live Redesign

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Post by thatswrong0 »

JDiculous wrote: post #18

The worst UI flaw of Ableton is its atrocious piano roll. They need to make it more like FL Studio's piano roll - left click to enter a note and hold it down to adjust length, right click to delete (yes there's draw mode, but it doesn't let you do that)

I genuinely don't understand what's going on with the devs. Little to no outreach about upcoming features or releases. Little to no attention paid to improving the core experience. They're seemingly ignoring their core users who have been asking for basic improvements such as these for years while continually improving the Push.

FL seems to be improving at a much more rapid pace. Bitwig gives us at least a glance at what's coming.

But Ableton? It really seems like they're getting complacent. Or they're struggling. Or maybe they're saving up everything for 10 (but telling no one about it). Ugh.

If I wasn't such a fan of the workflow I'd jump ship.

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