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WA, NY and CA Governors Announce Formation of United States Climate Alliance

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Re: WA, NY and CA Governors Announce Formation of United States Climate Alliance

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Post by digitalmaster »

IChangedCareers wrote: post #9
abalashov wrote: post #2

If they could just somehow recruit Texas to the cause, they'd pretty much have the leverage, as anchors of economics and policy for much of the rest of the country.

Texas runs its own power grid. Not the same interest as NY and CA in particular. They are probably actually cleaner than both combined?

Probably.. but at this point it's really not just about the emissions... it's now also about economics. Renewable energy is set to be a massive industry -- worth trillions and create millions of jobs globally. No state should want to be left behind.

Re: WA, NY and CA Governors Announce Formation of United States Climate Alliance

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Post by Bud »

IChangedCareers wrote: post #9
abalashov wrote: post #2

If they could just somehow recruit Texas to the cause, they'd pretty much have the leverage, as anchors of economics and policy for much of the rest of the country.

Texas runs its own power grid. Not the same interest as NY and CA in particular. They are probably actually cleaner than both combined?

Why would you just plain guess at TX being cleaner than CA, the clear leader among all US states on climate issues, without bothering to look it up? Careless and lazy.

Re: WA, NY and CA Governors Announce Formation of United States Climate Alliance

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Post by chasing »

IChangedCareers wrote: post #8

Noting that all three are (D). Statement of fact, and not opinion attempt. The actionable items on renewables are also huge with deregulation of energy sectors in these three states which is huge impact. Also noting, the lobbyst are all renewable folks - et al Tesla. :) SolarCity ... wonder who was pushing this? ya. Again .... not a political statement. Just pointing out the obvious.

You're someone who has been on Hacker News for almost five months and the only other comment you made before today was how you'd totally be a porn star, cos, y'know, free sex and drugs. I'm not trying to say anything, I'm just saying. Just pointing it out.

And maybe this isn't some grand liberal conspiracy because it's something that the entire planet and most Americans believe is a huge problem and maybe some intelligent governors see a chance to both act nobly for the common good and promote their energy economies -- two things pretty much everyone seems to agree the Paris Climate Agreement would do. Again, not trying to say anything, I'm just saying.

Re: WA, NY and CA Governors Announce Formation of United States Climate Alliance

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Post by Bud »

foota wrote: post #5
jansanchez wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Impossible with the current Texas governor.

I wouldn't be so sure, if Rex Tillerson was in favor of staying in Paris, why wouldn't the governor of Texas?

In case nobody noticed, former TX gov. Rick Perry did speak out on this, and he was in favor of the Paris accord, also.

Shocking that Trump would go against the current head of Exxon, the ex-head of Exxon who is also his Sec. of State, and another very conservative oil-state politician in Rick Perry.

http://time.com/4754578/rick-perry-paris-agreement-trum-clim...

Re: WA, NY and CA Governors Announce Formation of United States Climate Alliance

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Post by yongjik »

jacquesm wrote: post #3

Now that's a thing to be happy about. Funny how every time Trump feels that he's about to grab the brass ring it is snatched away from him one way or another. Governing without consensus building is harder than it seems apparently.

I wonder if Trump is secretly happy with the development. In addition to all the European liberals, he now gets to point his fingers at treasonous liberal states. Great for energizing your support base.

Re: WA, NY and CA Governors Announce Formation of United States Climate Alliance

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Post by Edmond »

artpop wrote: post #20

This is starting to sound like the “Rim States” from the science fiction novel Black Man (Thirteen) by Richard K. Morgan. Basically the blue and red states separate in the future because they couldn’t resolve their differences. The blue states go on to prosper and the red states languish. It struck me how plausible it sounded when I read it. Now with the commander in shit-the-bed Donald Trump and the rising tide self…

could work out that way...I can see a similar alliance on things like healthcare, education..etc...of course civil rights could be a complicating factor.

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Post by [deleted] »

Edmond wrote: post #27
artpop wrote: post #20

This is starting to sound like the “Rim States” from the science fiction novel Black Man (Thirteen) by Richard K. Morgan. Basically the blue and red states separate in the future because they couldn’t resolve their differences. The blue states go on to prosper and the red states languish. It struck me how plausible it sounded when I read it. Now with the commander in shit-the-bed Donald Trump and the rising tide self…

could work out that way...I can see a similar alliance on things like healthcare, education..etc...of course civil rights could be a complicating factor.

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Re: WA, NY and CA Governors Announce Formation of United States Climate Alliance

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Post by aaronbrethorst »

Bud wrote: post #24
foota wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't be so sure, if Rex Tillerson was in favor of staying in Paris, why wouldn't the governor of Texas?

In case nobody noticed, former TX gov. Rick Perry did speak out on this, and he was in favor of the Paris accord, also. Shocking that Trump would go against the current head of Exxon, the ex-head of Exxon who is also his Sec. of State, and another very conservative oil-state politician in Rick Perry. http://time.com/4754578/rick-perry-paris-agreement-trum-clim...

I've read some informed speculation that this was done in a fit of pique because of criticism from Angela Merkel: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/paris-and-the-battle-of-...

Re: WA, NY and CA Governors Announce Formation of United States Climate Alliance

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Post by aanm1988 »

artpop wrote: post #20

This is starting to sound like the “Rim States” from the science fiction novel Black Man (Thirteen) by Richard K. Morgan. Basically the blue and red states separate in the future because they couldn’t resolve their differences. The blue states go on to prosper and the red states languish. It struck me how plausible it sounded when I read it. Now with the commander in shit-the-bed Donald Trump and the rising tide self…

I doubt it gets that far, but it really does seem like something needs to change. The country doesn't necessarily need to shift as far left as california, but right not a set of old laws working with the modern shift towards cities is really reducing the power of a vote in CA/NY. That's a pretty big problem.
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