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Scientists find 7.2M-year-old pre-human remains in the Balkans

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The title on this needs to be corrected to match the article.

"Potential hominin affinities of Graecopithecus from the Late Miocene of Europe" I have no idea what that even says :(

I'll take a stab

"Evolutionary Ancestors of Modern Humans Originate from Greece Instead of Africa"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They found some fossils, including jawbones and teeth, in Greece belonging to an evolutionary ancestor of homo sapiens sapiens that seem to be older than those found elsewhere.

Hmm. Isn't Mesopotamia like the "cradle of civilization," and Greece is far but not terribly far from Mesopotamia. While shocking news, maybe the first civilizations came from Mesopotamia/Mediterranean Sea area because people had been there the longest?

Civilization happened long after humans came about

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They found some fossils, including jawbones and teeth, in Greece belonging to an evolutionary ancestor of homo sapiens sapiens that seem to be older than those found elsewhere.

Hmm. Isn't Mesopotamia like the "cradle of civilization," and Greece is far but not terribly far from Mesopotamia. While shocking news, maybe the first civilizations came from Mesopotamia/Mediterranean Sea area because people had been there the longest?

The delta between these fossils and "civilization" is almost ten million years.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm. Isn't Mesopotamia like the "cradle of civilization," and Greece is far but not terribly far from Mesopotamia. While shocking news, maybe the first civilizations came from Mesopotamia/Mediterranean Sea area because people had been there the longest?

Civilization happened long after humans came about

Good point. I didn't think through this terribly much to be honest.

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Could someone "explain like I'm five" the article?

They found two really old skeletons in Europe that are older than other skeletons. They are skeletons of a "modern"-ish human. They know because the teeth of the skeletons have a specific thing that the teeth of humans have but not the teeth of other primates. The older skeleton is 1 million years older than old skeletons found in Africa. So now the oldest skeletons that we know about come from Europe not Africa, rai…

> They know because the teeth of the skeletons have a specific thing that the teeth of humans have but not the teeth of other primates.

What is the "specific thing"?

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Look up Kumari Kandam for what (we) Tamils think as the origin of mankind. Edit - Not sure why I am being downvoted. I didn't claim it to be true. It seemed relevant and a lot of folks around me believe it.

TLDR: It's Lemuria, the Atlantis of the subcontinent (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumari_Kandam). It has about as much relevance as the biblical garden of eden.

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Look up Kumari Kandam for what (we) Tamils think as the origin of mankind. Edit - Not sure why I am being downvoted. I didn't claim it to be true. It seemed relevant and a lot of folks around me believe it.

Just read about this, it's a pretty cool origin myth! I had never heard about the legend of Lemuria before.

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Look up Kumari Kandam for what (we) Tamils think as the origin of mankind. Edit - Not sure why I am being downvoted. I didn't claim it to be true. It seemed relevant and a lot of folks around me believe it.

Haha, thanks. This is quite entertaining. A modern origin myth. Never thought I'd see something like that widespread uptake.

It says that textbooks as late as 1981 had this stuff in them. Fascinating. Boy am I glad they got rid of this stuff by the time I was in school in the '90s.

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