Parts of this read like a mundane description of minority report.
Facebook's internal rulebook on sex, terrorism and violence
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#22Why is there so much emphasis on the credibility of the threat? Why not just blanket remove all explicit threats? Establishing credibility is impossibly hard.
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#23I'm more surprised that they haven't moved to Machine Learning yet.
The cult around ML here is pretty amusing. As another poster said, AI is currently staggeringly bad at this task, and I'm not sure it's going to be good enough in the near future either.
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#24My first thought on reading this makes me deeply empathize with the people that have to deal with these questions. It must be extremely draining and emotionally difficult work, probably traumatic. Just having to write a policy about what constitutes acceptable nudity in the context of the Holocaust by itself is pretty terrible. And yet it's important for people to see those images. Just like the controversy over the image of the naked Vietnamese girl running down a road with napalm burns. That too is an important image. But to allow that image, someone has to look at these kinds of images and decide what's ok and what's not. I can't even imagine all the disturbing shit one has to look at to come up with those rules (which will be imperfect).
I can't imagine that there are many other single entities that have to deal with the ugliness of humanity at the scale of FB.
The sheer volume of content is unlike anything else humans have ever seen before. By comparison news outlets like the Guardian have the luxury to struggle with these kinds of questions on a 1-off basis.
Given all that I have to wonder how government regulations would make this better?
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#25It's interesting that they have specific provisions for Zionism.
If you refer to "#stab and be the fear" etc., I guess it's not because it's about Zionism, but rather because it's an incitement to commit terrorist acts (totally credible, seen the situatuon). So I guess it makes sense. (And I say this as a total sympathizer with the plight of Palestinians and their struggle against the Israeli occupation.)
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#26I hope the take-away that comes out of the leaked documents is this: community moderation is very, very hard . It's not just a simple cut-and-dry "free speech vs censorship" issue. There's an enormous amount of nuance involved to sustain a community that won't just devolve into a toxic waste dump that's poison for 99% of the people there. In my experience working with startups, many of them don't treat their content…
Complete crap.
Go look up the Alexis ranking of 4chan, certainly more popular then the pious bigots who comment here. Moderation isn't hard, it's only hard for those who need to justify the silencing of opinions they don't like.
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#27It's interesting that they have specific provisions for Zionism.
That's because there's a specific campaign that actually happened with "how to stab a Jew" and similar.
https://news.vice.com/video/palestinian-social-media-uprisin...
> Leaderless Palestinian youth, inspired by instructional videos and photos on social media encouraging people to "Stab a Jew," are thought to be behind a new wave of violence in Israel and the West Bank. Uncoordinated and spontaneous attacks by individual young Palestinians, mostly under the age of 25, started to occur almost daily from October 2015, with assailants often using a household weapon — a knife, axe, meat cleaver, screwdriver — before being fired upon by nearby Israeli security forces. So far, the bloodshed has claimed the lives of at least 28 Israelis and 189 Palestinians, 128 of whom Israel says were assailants.
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#28Do you have any legal citations about the right to be heard?
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#29It's interesting that they have specific provisions for Zionism.
Yes, it is, Id expect general provisions just for religion.
I guess some religions are more equal than others.
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#30I hope the take-away that comes out of the leaked documents is this: community moderation is very, very hard . It's not just a simple cut-and-dry "free speech vs censorship" issue. There's an enormous amount of nuance involved to sustain a community that won't just devolve into a toxic waste dump that's poison for 99% of the people there. In my experience working with startups, many of them don't treat their content…
Listen. I used the phone since 40 years. With the phone I had conversations with people that could have, well, annoyed others to say the least. I've said super bad things with my phone. Was I moderated ? No. Was it a problem ? No. Moderating is just here to make sure that FaceBook can still operate. That's just a problem for FaceBook to protect its image.
Let's imagine that there is no moderation. What will happen ? OK, some people will have argument, there will be insult, blood, etc. And, well, depending on a tipping point, we may realize that oooooops, letting people talk in the open is not so good. FB would be blamed and hen disappear. So be it. Now, another thing to do is : prosecute those who say unacceptable things. With prosecution, you have the justice system that will handle the case. That'll be slower but there will be discussions and, hopefully better laws.
FaceBook is becoming the Judge Dredd of free speech. It decides what's criminal and what's not and it applies his own power to handle the case directly.