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Re: Save Net Neutrality

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Why is the new administration against Net Neutrality? What are Ajit Pai's legit arguments to take this stand?

The new admin is generally against regulations that restrict business. Net Neutrality is one of these. Whether you think that is legit is up to you. But don't fall into the trap of thinking the other side is disingenuous and evil.

Re: Save Net Neutrality

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Use http://gofccyourself.com to quickly leave a public comment regarding net neutrality.

Tangent: Why does so much modern political discourse resort to profane language, either overtly or with puns?

Politics is mostly entertainment. Either comedy or rage porn.

Re: Save Net Neutrality

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Why is the new administration against Net Neutrality? What are Ajit Pai's legit arguments to take this stand?

The new admin is generally against regulations that restrict business. Net Neutrality is one of these. Whether you think that is legit is up to you. But don't fall into the trap of thinking the other side is disingenuous and evil.

Oh, but they are. Otherwise they wouldn't endanger lives with their health care shutdown while talking so much about pro-life, or threaten to shut down the legal marijuana business in the states that legalised it (which also serves as a convenient example to show how little they actually care about 'states' rights')

Re: Save Net Neutrality

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was a different time.

Lol man, I'm so sick of statements like these. How is that adding to the conversation? How was it all that different? I don't want to assume, but I'm fairly certain adding what you think is different will create more discussion.

You're right. It was 2011 when SOPA/PIPA were being considered. The internet is almost exactly the same as it was then. The biggest internet businesses and ISPs from then are the biggest that exist now. Other stuff related to the internet has happened in the interim (Snowden leaks, for example), but that's not super relevant in this context. The same companies that stand to profit from changes to net neutrality now are the same as in 2011.

As dire as the situation in Washington may seem now, democracy hasn't fallen. We as the citizenry haven't lost any power we had back then. If anything, we have more now given the surge in online activism (that also leads to real life activism more readily, at least from my perspective).

Re: Save Net Neutrality

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Why is the new administration against Net Neutrality? What are Ajit Pai's legit arguments to take this stand?

The new admin is generally against regulations that restrict business. Net Neutrality is one of these. Whether you think that is legit is up to you. But don't fall into the trap of thinking the other side is disingenuous and evil.

> But don't fall into the trap of thinking the other side is disingenuous and evil.

It just tends to act that way when unregulated.

Re: Save Net Neutrality

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Why is the new administration against Net Neutrality? What are Ajit Pai's legit arguments to take this stand?

Because new administration is very pro monopoly, and therefore they are scaling down anti-trust limitations. Net neutrality is just one of them. TL;DR: they pretend to be pro free market, but in essence they are against strong competition.

Also corruption. Monopolists pay them a lot, and play the dumb "don't regulate, the invisible hand of the market will fix all" card which simply doesn't apply in monopolized cases.

Re: Save Net Neutrality

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The new admin is generally against regulations that restrict business. Net Neutrality is one of these. Whether you think that is legit is up to you. But don't fall into the trap of thinking the other side is disingenuous and evil.

Oh, but they are. Otherwise they wouldn't endanger lives with their health care shutdown while talking so much about pro-life, or threaten to shut down the legal marijuana business in the states that legalised it (which also serves as a convenient example to show how little they actually care about 'states' rights')

"anyone who disagrees with me is EVIL"

Re: Save Net Neutrality

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Why is the new administration against Net Neutrality? What are Ajit Pai's legit arguments to take this stand?

Is the 2012 appointment of Ajit Pai, who will gut net neutrality and return the Internet back to the people, the greatest accomplishment of the Obama administration?

Re: Save Net Neutrality

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https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/search/filings?proceedings_name=17-... Bots flooding the FCC comment section with the same text, different addresses. e.g all 'Brittany' posts

The top 2 repeated comments of the first 550k submissions are definitely copy pasted.

https://www.reddit.com/r/netneutrality/comments/6ach2d/top_r...

* 55957 comments with "The unprecedented regulatory power the Obama Administration imposed on the internet is smothering innovation, damaging the American economy and obstructing job creation. ..."

* 13649 comments with: "I was outraged by the Obama/Wheeler FCC's decision to reclassify the Internet as a regulated \"public utility\" under a Depression-era law written for the old Ma Bell telephone monopoly. ..."

There are a bunch of repeated pro net neutrality comments, but they tend to be variances of "I support strong net neutrality backed by Title II oversight of ISPs."

There are 263512 unique comments, and 14859 comments repeated twice, 4318 comments repeated thrice.

Re: Save Net Neutrality

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lol man, I'm so sick of statements like these. How is that adding to the conversation? How was it all that different? I don't want to assume, but I'm fairly certain adding what you think is different will create more discussion.

You're right. It was 2011 when SOPA/PIPA were being considered. The internet is almost exactly the same as it was then. The biggest internet businesses and ISPs from then are the biggest that exist now. Other stuff related to the internet has happened in the interim (Snowden leaks, for example), but that's not super relevant in this context. The same companies that stand to profit from changes to net neutrality now a…

> As dire as the situation in Washington may seem now, democracy hasn't fallen. We as the citizenry haven't lost any power we had back then. If anything, we have more now given the surge in online activism (that also leads to real life activism more readily, at least from my perspective).

Ehhh let's not assume the future is alright quite yet. The prez did just fire the guy investigating his campaign's links to a foreign adversary.

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