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Provide the vets with books on coding for a specialized curriculum for fee and give them some specialized job prep. Many places would love to hire Vets.
All the resources to learn coding are freely available. Anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to make a buck.
Bootcamps, at least Dev Bootcamp, focus heavily on the mental/emotional aspect of this stuff as much as the technical material itself, and do a lot to build the confidence that really is required for many people.
And yeah, I do think most companies are primarily incentivized by profits, but that doesn't mean they can't provide a genuine service at the same time.
Full disclaimer, I used to work for Udacity and was "trying to make a buck".
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True, but what does "writing code" mean? If it means learning some basic JavaScript syntax and writing a small text adventure, that isn't hard at all. Learning the mathematical fundamentals of CS on the other hand is a great deal harder, and getting up to speed with what technologies are considered standard is extremely difficult.
You're not going to learn much CS from a code school.
"Mid-level development as a skilled trade" jobs, for example.
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I think established and accredited universities should set up two year coding programs that can teach the trade as opposed to pop up overpriced bootcamps that usually operate without much accountability. Then the GI Bill can pick up the tab for such programs.
A 4 year college program didn't teach me to code, what makes you think a 2 year program could? I learned how to write my own linked list however..
All the resources to learn coding are freely available. Anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to make a buck.
But there is a vast difference between being alone in a room, and being in a room full of people who are all trying to learn the same thing.
All the resources to learn coding are freely available. Anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to make a buck.
Whether you believe code schools are good or bad (I lean somewhat towards good), I wonder if we have not fully learned the lesson from the rash several years ago of fly-by-night for-profit colleges preying on vets and providing substandard education and inflated job promises, all on the GI Bill's dime. I worry that if the GI Bill was extended to code schools, we'd see the exact same thing happen again.
When I was general medical officer in the Navy, among other clinic duties, I did exit physicals for sailors, sometimes 20 a week. I would always try to talk to them about their plans for the future. Some seemed to be squared away. But I can't tell you how many times someone told me their plan was to take online classes from some sketchy school I'd never heard of. I'd google it with them, it would be some online unive…
I wrote this in favor of them: https://academia.stackexchange.com/q/14833/9518
> Students overwhelmingly report retaining and applying less from online courses versus face-to-face courses. > However, this may be due to a difference in factors other than distance learning.
However, I find your insult to Trump voters gratuitous and unnecessary.
"Coding schools" are a sham, and I'm glad they're not covered by the GI Bill. There's nothing stopping these veterans from going to a regular university, college, or community college and getting a real degree in computer science, software engineering, or a related field.
Nothing? Have a little empathy, buddy. While I have some sympathy for your opinion of coding bootcamps, just bear in mind that it's not easy giving up something you've been doing for a couple of decades and going back to college with people half you age and then having to restart your career in an entirely new profession. The mental flexibility one has when one is young just isn't there anymore for these individuals.
All the resources to learn coding are freely available. Anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to make a buck.
- It takes time to make high-quality resources. Teaching is a real job.
- Asking for money can decrease churn (see: Sunk Cost Fallacy)
- Programs that include synchronous mentoring cost money, but might be more effective