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Families of San Bernardino Shooting Sue Facebook, Google, Twitter

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Re: Families of San Bernardino Shooting Sue Facebook, Google, Twitter

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Post by mter »

post_break wrote: post #18
thesmallestcat wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's a valid comparison. Not making a statement on the Sandy Hook suit's merit, but clearly the San Bernardino couple didn't shoot up the place with tweets and wall posts.

Not a valid comparison? It's the exact comparison. What about suing the truck manufacturers when that terrorist ran over a bunch of people, or Boeing for 9/11, etc. Just because they are a manufacturer of firearms doesnt excuse them from this ideology.

This is not a valid comparison because there is literally a federal law protecting gun manufacturers. There is not a similar law protecting twitter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_of_Lawful_Commerce_...

Re: Families of San Bernardino Shooting Sue Facebook, Google, Twitter

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Post by thesmallestcat »

post_break wrote: post #18
thesmallestcat wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's a valid comparison. Not making a statement on the Sandy Hook suit's merit, but clearly the San Bernardino couple didn't shoot up the place with tweets and wall posts.

Not a valid comparison? It's the exact comparison. What about suing the truck manufacturers when that terrorist ran over a bunch of people, or Boeing for 9/11, etc. Just because they are a manufacturer of firearms doesnt excuse them from this ideology.

No, the exact comparison would be a similar suit against the gun manufacturers for the San Bernardino shooting.

Re: Families of San Bernardino Shooting Sue Facebook, Google, Twitter

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Post by gumby »

nappy wrote: post #15
wand3r wrote: post #11

Wow, horrifying. I want to give them the benefit of the doubt for such a tradgedy and the emotional stress and grief it causes; but this is illogical, dangerous and counterproductive. Terrorism seeks to change our way of life and sueing a company for providing a platform for[0] free speech (which those companies actually already curtail) will not only cause problems to this already slippery slope, but simply displace…

Do you think corporations have the right to free speech? Do you think they ought to?

I read that as the free speech of others, not the "speech" of the companies.

The whole "companies are people" is nonsense. They are simply machines like any other human invention, and can't reasonably be held to have objectives or speech of their own any more than an automobile can.

Re: Families of San Bernardino Shooting Sue Facebook, Google, Twitter

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Post by gumby »

calvinbhai wrote: post #19

I'm wondering why not sue the ISPs and the utilities that provide electricity or the power generating nuclear reactors / coal power plants? Without any of these, it'd be impossible for ISIS to spread.

I think we should sue the chemical companies for not polluting enough to kill off the shooters.

Re: Families of San Bernardino Shooting Sue Facebook, Google, Twitter

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Post by phaus »

finid wrote: post #23

Terrorism seeks to change our way of life... That sounds like the "they attacked us because of our freedom". No, pal. Terrorists are pissed off because of what your govt is doing overseas. They're really not interested in your way of life or your freedom.

Depends on the terrorist. Some organizations want to bring about the end of western influence in the middle east, some are delusional and think they will rule the world.

Re: Families of San Bernardino Shooting Sue Facebook, Google, Twitter

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Post by meloss2 »

holly4 wrote: post #7

Good. It's high time. Misguided people are generally surrounded by misguided people. Therefore the like/retweet/view counters of their content over-amplifies whatever narrative is already in their heads. It's like watching a very badly trained neural network getting worse. They just don't have access to a good corrective mechanism. I hold Facebook, Youtube and Twitter responsible for training a whole bunch of people…

You are going to get downvoted to hell here but you are right.

The Indian Army just shutdown social media for a month in Kashmir.

Not because they are scared of the cat videos, but they have no way to control the spread of misinformation (and subsequent violence) every time a terrorist attack happens. Lots of times its just a bunch of kids egging on a bunch of kids.

Re: Families of San Bernardino Shooting Sue Facebook, Google, Twitter

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Post by finid »

usaphp wrote: post #17
misnome wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They enabled the perpetrator's planning and communications by supplying him the phone. I mean, they are just as culpable as Facebook, Google and Twitter... ...i.e. not at all, but a large and wealthy company to try and extort a settlement from.

By this logic you can sue the clothing company that provided them with clothes during their felony

I think the guy was wearing underwear at the time, so Hanes? can be sued too.

Re: Families of San Bernardino Shooting Sue Facebook, Google, Twitter

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Post by wand3r »

gumby wrote: post #24
nappy wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think corporations have the right to free speech? Do you think they ought to?

I read that as the free speech of others, not the "speech" of the companies. The whole "companies are people" is nonsense. They are simply machines like any other human invention, and can't reasonably be held to have objectives or speech of their own any more than an automobile can.

I edited for clarity

Re: Families of San Bernardino Shooting Sue Facebook, Google, Twitter

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Post by jsweojtj »

finid wrote: post #23

Terrorism seeks to change our way of life... That sounds like the "they attacked us because of our freedom". No, pal. Terrorists are pissed off because of what your govt is doing overseas. They're really not interested in your way of life or your freedom.

So the Charlie Hebdo attack was in response to the editors and their... what taking oil from somewhere??
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