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Nick Sand, Orange Sunshine LSD chemist, has died

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Re: Nick Sand, Orange Sunshine LSD chemist, has died

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Speaking as a meditation enthusiast, he probably did more to expand human consciousness than a thousand meditation enthusiasts.

I'm curious, have you ever combined meditation with psychoactive substances?

I've found that marijuana and amphetamines both make it substantially easier for me to meditate and calm my mind. I'm not particularly experienced though- just a handful of times a month for a few years...

Re: Nick Sand, Orange Sunshine LSD chemist, has died

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post #14

Speaking as a meditation enthusiast, he probably did more to expand human consciousness than a thousand meditation enthusiasts.

I'm curious, have you ever combined meditation with psychoactive substances? I've found that marijuana and amphetamines both make it substantially easier for me to meditate and calm my mind. I'm not particularly experienced though- just a handful of times a month for a few years...

I'd recommend combining microdosing (10 micrograms) with meditation. It can subtly take you to another level. It doesn't however render the "pure" meditation experience inferior.

Re: Nick Sand, Orange Sunshine LSD chemist, has died

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious, have you ever combined meditation with psychoactive substances? I've found that marijuana and amphetamines both make it substantially easier for me to meditate and calm my mind. I'm not particularly experienced though- just a handful of times a month for a few years...

I'd recommend combining microdosing (10 micrograms) with meditation. It can subtly take you to another level. It doesn't however render the "pure" meditation experience inferior.

And I recommend higher doses. But be familiar with both.

Re: Nick Sand, Orange Sunshine LSD chemist, has died

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Are the rest of you just too polite to knock a soul only looking for a saviour? Why are these comments exclusively basket-cases fawning over the 'world-changing' meditative power of an objectively useless and destructive drug?

I'll preempt the obvious response. Yeah, it doesn't kill you, but it irreparably alters your personality in a completely senseless way, turns you into Tim Leary, or someotherway spits in the face of the delicate and exhaustingly intentional intellectual and emotional process that has produced every genuine, valuable human insight in history. I haven't encountered a single LSD advocate that wasn't conspicuously unstable and self-hating, and we don't say a word when they encourage others to risk everything that matters to a functional person in exchange for fake spiritual nonsense.

Now they'll suggest I take some to free myself from the confines of the emotional equipment that grounds any reasonable value system. As an exercise, read the responses carefully. For nothing, they've bargained away their ability to argue this point with me, and they want me to join the club.

edit: As anticipated, this comment is unpopular. However, no one has yet attempted to articulate a criticism. I welcome any effort, and will try to respond with care.

Re: Nick Sand, Orange Sunshine LSD chemist, has died

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd recommend combining microdosing (10 micrograms) with meditation. It can subtly take you to another level. It doesn't however render the "pure" meditation experience inferior.

And I recommend higher doses. But be familiar with both.

Oh I didn't intend to exclude those. I absolutely agree - 150 micrograms (and up, for experienced users) can absolutely have life transforming effects, if used with the right attitude and careful preparation.

Re: Nick Sand, Orange Sunshine LSD chemist, has died

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post #24

Are the rest of you just too polite to knock a soul only looking for a saviour? Why are these comments exclusively basket-cases fawning over the 'world-changing' meditative power of an objectively useless and destructive drug? I'll preempt the obvious response. Yeah, it doesn't kill you, but it irreparably alters your personality in a completely senseless way, turns you into Tim Leary, or someotherway spits in the fa…

If this Nick Sand guy's most notable work is synthesizing large amounts of LSD, I celebrate his passing and hope with the best intentions that his legacy dies with him too.

Re: Nick Sand, Orange Sunshine LSD chemist, has died

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These people arguably changed the world. Early psychonauts and LSD use are tied to the beginnings of the electronic frontier foundation, and the concept of an open information space and an alternative reality for all of humanity to use freely. There is a documentary which shows in interviews that these ideals were at least partially inspired by LSD use. I hope someday to conquer my anxiety to a degree sufficient to e…

'I hope someday to conquer my anxiety to a degree sufficient to explore beneficial LSD use without fear of so called bad trips.'

I wouldn't risk it. I suffered an acute psychotic episode, induced by LSD, that lasted for three days. I had to be hospitalized. It wasn't a nice experience for my family and friends. It was competely unexpected, I'd used psychedelics before with no ill effect, and have no mental health issues.

We don't fully understand the mechanism by which psychedelic drugs work, and so cannot guarantee a safe way to use them.

Re: Nick Sand, Orange Sunshine LSD chemist, has died

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Beautiful quote from him in the article: When I began to navigate psychospace with LSD, I realized that before we were conscious, seemingly self-propelled human beings, many tapes and corridors had been created in our minds and reflexes which were not of our own making. These patterns and tapes laid down in our consciousness are walled off from each other. I see it as a vast labyrinth with high walls sealing off the…

That's a truly well-put quote... its so easy to 'see' having done LSD a lot. I'm still it's sure hard to even come 1% of grasping it if you've never experienced though.

Re: Nick Sand, Orange Sunshine LSD chemist, has died

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post #24

Are the rest of you just too polite to knock a soul only looking for a saviour? Why are these comments exclusively basket-cases fawning over the 'world-changing' meditative power of an objectively useless and destructive drug? I'll preempt the obvious response. Yeah, it doesn't kill you, but it irreparably alters your personality in a completely senseless way, turns you into Tim Leary, or someotherway spits in the fa…

Sounds like you need to try out some LSD bro.

Re: Nick Sand, Orange Sunshine LSD chemist, has died

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Great interview of Nick Sand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxiK827_rX8 parting words: "If we can keep moving from truth to love to beauty to preciousness, everything around us becomes sacred"

What was he trying to encourage with those words, exactly? Give up on reality and at the same time somehow force yourself to care deeply about things? Didn't humanity throw out this garbage philosophy thousands of years ago? Or is this instead some strange drug-fueled process I'm not meant to reason about but only experience?
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