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Re: 13 Stripes and 51 Stars

#22
post #7

Sad that Puerto Rico might become a state before DC

I think the bigger problem is that we let people make permanent residence in area that was designed not to be part of a state. Perhaps they could shrink the DC area down and give the residential land back to the appropriate states.

Precedent:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_retrocessi...

Re: 13 Stripes and 51 Stars

#23
post #15

uhm "The United States Army Institute of Heraldry has plans for flags with up to 56 stars" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Institute_of... http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/

Six more? Puerto Rico, DC, British Columbia, Baja California, Cuba, and...? It's interesting to see all the areas worldwide that have, at one time or another and with varying degrees of seriousness, been proposed as new US states. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/51st_state

My guess would be DC, the 4 unincorporated, organized territories ( Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, and US Virgin Islands), and American Samoa (the only substantially inhabited unincorporated, unorganized territory).

Re: 13 Stripes and 51 Stars

#25

Different, but I really like the proposed circular formation for 51 stars. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/US_... Of course if we adopted it, some right-wingers would say it means were going commie, or something like it.

The blue area seems to be a little small. Why do you say "Of course if we adopted it, some right-wingers would say it means were going commie, or something like it."? I have seen a lot of original 13-star circular flags in the possession of people that would self-describe as being on the right.

I think it's because of who proposed it: the New Progressive Party of Puerto Rico, according to Wikipedia in the "51st State" article.

I like the arrangement, too, but I can see why its provenance might taint it in some eyes. That's unfortunate; it's a much more pleasant arrangement than the one we currently have.

I could also see people objecting to changing the US's hundred-odd-year tradition of having ugly and grating arrangements of stars. :) And the circular star arrangement _is_ something one tends to see flown by sinister US successor states like those in _Fallout_ and _Jericho_...

Re: 13 Stripes and 51 Stars

#26
post #15

uhm "The United States Army Institute of Heraldry has plans for flags with up to 56 stars" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Institute_of... http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/

Six more? Puerto Rico, DC, British Columbia, Baja California, Cuba, and...? It's interesting to see all the areas worldwide that have, at one time or another and with varying degrees of seriousness, been proposed as new US states. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/51st_state

My guess is that they found a sequence that worked until it hit 56, so they stopped there.

Re: 13 Stripes and 51 Stars

#27
post #15

uhm "The United States Army Institute of Heraldry has plans for flags with up to 56 stars" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Institute_of... http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/

Six more? Puerto Rico, DC, British Columbia, Baja California, Cuba, and...? It's interesting to see all the areas worldwide that have, at one time or another and with varying degrees of seriousness, been proposed as new US states. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/51st_state

Luna

Re: 13 Stripes and 51 Stars

#28
post #19
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Six more? Puerto Rico, DC, British Columbia, Baja California, Cuba, and...? It's interesting to see all the areas worldwide that have, at one time or another and with varying degrees of seriousness, been proposed as new US states. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/51st_state

Britain?

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Re: 13 Stripes and 51 Stars

#29
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Six more? Puerto Rico, DC, British Columbia, Baja California, Cuba, and...? It's interesting to see all the areas worldwide that have, at one time or another and with varying degrees of seriousness, been proposed as new US states. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/51st_state

Luna

I like it! Let's throw in L1, L2, L3, L4, L5 too. The new flag starfield:

     ★   ★   ★   ★   ★   ★ L4
       ★   ★   ★   ★   ★
     ★   ★   ★   ★   ★   ★ 
       ★   ★   ★   ★   ★
 L3  ★   ★   ★   ★   ★   ★   L1  ☽  L2
       ★   ★   ★   ★   ★
     ★   ★   ★   ★   ★   ★
       ★   ★   ★   ★   ★
     ★   ★   ★   ★   ★   ★ L5

Re: 13 Stripes and 51 Stars

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The blue area seems to be a little small. Why do you say "Of course if we adopted it, some right-wingers would say it means were going commie, or something like it."? I have seen a lot of original 13-star circular flags in the possession of people that would self-describe as being on the right.

I think it's because of who proposed it: the New Progressive Party of Puerto Rico, according to Wikipedia in the "51st State" article. I like the arrangement, too, but I can see why its provenance might taint it in some eyes. That's unfortunate; it's a much more pleasant arrangement than the one we currently have. I could also see people objecting to changing the US's hundred-odd-year tradition of having ugly and gra…

The New Progressive Party is the right-wing party in Puerto Rico. It was founded by Republicans and most of its leadership is affiliated with the Republicans.

It's the left-wing parties of Puerto Rico that are the ones that favor free association or independence instead of statehood.

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