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Re: Safari 5

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Post by mambodog »

ck2 wrote: post #12

ARGH !!! It DELETED my Safari 4 even when I put it into another directory ??!! Who deletes something automatically without a warning/permission these days? Any sign of a portable/virtualized version yet? Or too soon?

Maybe you would have been better off to move/rename the original copy of Safari (4)... Installer probably thought it was just cleaning up after itself (why would the average user want 2 copies of Safari?).

Re: Safari 5

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Post by ck2 »

mambodog wrote: post #21
ck2 wrote: post #12

ARGH !!! It DELETED my Safari 4 even when I put it into another directory ??!! Who deletes something automatically without a warning/permission these days? Any sign of a portable/virtualized version yet? Or too soon?

Maybe you would have been better off to move/rename the original copy of Safari (4)... Installer probably thought it was just cleaning up after itself (why would the average user want 2 copies of Safari?).

Essentially that's what I am going to have to do now since the installer only allows one copy of safari per PC and I can't figure out an override, even via msiexec.

   1. uninstall S5
   2. install S4
   3. archive S4
   4. install S5 to different directory
   5. unarchive S4
Oh and the reason for multiple installs is of course to test what breaks in what version. Many people won't be upgrading just yet to S5.

update: this now works great and both versions peacefully co-exist

Re: Safari 5

#24

Post by jalada »

IgorPartola wrote: post #17

So the default search engine is Bing. Interesting...

I thought they just added it as an option.

Will they remove Yahoo from the list when Yahoo results = Bing results I wonder?

Re: Safari 5

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Post by ugh »

IgorPartola wrote: post #17

So the default search engine is Bing. Interesting...

The default search engine is still Google – it’s just that you now can also switch search engines and also pick Yahoo as well as Bing (that’s the order in which they appear in the list).

They just heavily advertise this new option with a huge image [1], ordinarily a feature like that would get a line or two of text or maybe not even be mentioned. I guess that’s supposed to send a message to Google, something like “We have a good relationship with your competitor so you better not fuck with us!” (i.e. stop us from using Maps or something like that).

[1] http://www.apple.com/safari/whats-new.html

Re: Safari 5

#27

Post by m_eiman »

upinsmoke wrote: post #9
iaskwhy wrote: post #4

I find it odd I had to restart after upgrading a browser in OSX, reminds me of that old time. In Windows the upgrade went without a restart. Edit: Yes, talking about Safari only.

You are not only upgrading Safari. You are upgrading Webkit as well! And it is used in many other apps, like iTunes. Webkit is very much integrated into OS X. That's why it needs to restart.

It shouldn't be very to hard to generate a list of running apps that link against the updated libs and ask the user for permission to restart them... Or let the user ignore it at own peril.

Re: Safari 5

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Post by joshuamarch »

I love how fast Safari 5 is (faster than Chrome for me) - but the UI of Chrome just makes browsing and navigation much, much better (auto hiding everything you don't need, combining URL and search bar etc). Apple should have learned from Chrome, it's superior.

Re: Safari 5

#29

Post by marbletiles »

friism wrote: post #2

I work for a large newspaper, and we're not very amused by the built-in "Reader" (removes ads and crud, like Readability): http://www.apple.com/safari/whats-new.html ... for users, it looks like a good feature though.

If your site is full of "crud", it's hard to be sympathetic.

Re: Safari 5

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Post by JeffJenkins »

mbateman wrote: post #19
friism wrote: post #2

I work for a large newspaper, and we're not very amused by the built-in "Reader" (removes ads and crud, like Readability): http://www.apple.com/safari/whats-new.html ... for users, it looks like a good feature though.

It also automagically displays the text of the article in one page, despite the obnoxious effort of a site to require you to click through to multiple pages to read a single article. As far as I can tell, the point of splitting an article into more than one page was just more ad exposure. So it's a double whammy: graying out and background the ads, and decreasing the number of ad-ridden pages one needs to read the ar…

I actually like multiple pages. I find reading some of the longer (8ish page) NY Times or The Atlantic articles difficult when it's just one enormous piece of text. I like that it's broken down into small chunks, and it offers a convenient place to stop if I don't have time for the full article.

I also don't like it when people here link to Print View instead of the main article page. Partly for that reason, and partly because the text columns tend to be way too wide on print view pages. There's also frequently no way to get back to the non-print-view page.

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