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Re: Programmers are most likely to work from home

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There is a dirty secret that nobody talks about and the real reason that companies want programmers in the office. Companies want their top performers in the office so they can serve as trainers/mentors/teachers to the new college kids and the incompetent older people they hire. I think this is the real reason companies crack down on working from home. It's infuriating as a top performer - I just want to get my assig…

If the scope of your work is to "just code" then fair point. On a previous job I was supposed to:

a) do my thing, b) teach people to learn to do my thing..

Lync worked miracles doing that and we could all WFH while doing the (b)

(I still dislike the "Skype for biz..." name)

Re: Programmers are most likely to work from home

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There is a dirty secret that nobody talks about and the real reason that companies want programmers in the office. Companies want their top performers in the office so they can serve as trainers/mentors/teachers to the new college kids and the incompetent older people they hire. I think this is the real reason companies crack down on working from home. It's infuriating as a top performer - I just want to get my assig…

How is that a dirty secret?

Helping build the team, sharing your knowledge and expertise, it's all part of your work. Odd attitude.

If you purely want technical tasks, go freelance. Of course then you need to spend time getting business so...

Re: Programmers are most likely to work from home

#24
I've had really good experiences working from home, and awful ones too. It usually comes down to having a distributed-first mindset among the team and management.

The ideal would be to have an office with a super short commute when I need a change of scenery, but the option to work from home whenever I feel like it.

The requirement to sit your rear in a specific chair at a specific time is pretty stupid when you can code anywhere you can carry your laptop.

Re: Programmers are most likely to work from home

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I like working from my office. I don't understand people that like working from home. Possible confounding variable: I live exactly two blocks from my office and don't have to commute. Perhaps, in actuality, people don't like to commute?

I work from home and love it, but a large part of that, as you theorize, is the lack of commute.

If I lived within walking distance of a job I'd otherwise enjoy, I'd strongly consider it.

Re: Programmers are most likely to work from home

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I'm more of a "cat herder" than programmer these days, and I probably would have great difficulty doing my job from home, or with others working from home. Face-to-face conversations and in-person meetings are tools that have their uses, just as E-mail and asynchronous chat, phone calls and video conferences are tools that have their uses. To me, the cost of tossing out those "in person" tools does not make up for the pleasure of eliminating my [2 hour each way] commute.

Re: Programmers are most likely to work from home

#28

There is a dirty secret that nobody talks about and the real reason that companies want programmers in the office. Companies want their top performers in the office so they can serve as trainers/mentors/teachers to the new college kids and the incompetent older people they hire. I think this is the real reason companies crack down on working from home. It's infuriating as a top performer - I just want to get my assig…

I get what you're saying, it sucks training the new guy. It is however, the sign of a good/great programmer/performer to be able to train other people. Also, frankly, it just has to be done. Companies don't want to lock their knowledge into a few good people.

You take on the challenge of efficiently "getting your assigned work done". I'd challenge you to take on the task of teaching others with the same mentality you approach your "regular" work. Do it as efficiently and productively as possible. Then when you're done, go about your day.

Re: Programmers are most likely to work from home

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post #12

I like working from my office. I don't understand people that like working from home. Possible confounding variable: I live exactly two blocks from my office and don't have to commute. Perhaps, in actuality, people don't like to commute?

I can set my own hours. I don't have to commute. I can setup my home office exactly how I'd like it. I don't get distracted by non-work things at the office, such as loud noises or conversations not related to what I'm doing. I can also quickly prepare my own meals then and there, and play music or podcasts from my computer instead of using headphones. Honestly, it's a pretty amazing experience if you have people who knows how to work with a distributed team, namely being consistent about communication windows.

And for others, it gives them a chance to spend more time with their kids. Or live in a place that is far more relaxing and calm than wherever the office might be located.

I understand preferring to separate work from home, or being more productive at the office, but I don't understand people who don't understand why people like working from home. I don't mean to be offensive but it just doesn't seem that complicated to imagine some of the benefits people prefer.

Re: Programmers are most likely to work from home

#30
As someone who's stuck in open office torture chamber and dreaming about working remotely I can't help but notice an obvious trend - developers from poorer countries are "outbidding" those who are not in what seems to be just another race to the bottom. Unless of course you're a highly sought after specialist with experience in some narrow area, or you have good contacts.
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