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Re: Instagram grows to 1M active advertisers

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Their terms of service also prohibit apps from using "gram" in the name.

This is correct for applications using IG's API. This is not the case for statimgram.

Your bigger concern should probably be Facebook's trademark lawyers.

Re: Instagram grows to 1M active advertisers

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We provide a full "end to end" posting service requiring no intervention from you after you have scheduled your posts (no push notifications to your phone and you having to open the Instagram app to post it for example. We don't use IG's API.

IANAL But that is the issue, you as a developer and provider may not run afoul of the terms directly, but your users will. Section 10 in the Basic Terms forbids accessing Instagrams Private API's. And if that isn't being used and you are a user of Instagram are running afoul of Section 4 of those terms in soliciting, collecting, or using the login credentials of other users. As well as your naming being in conflict w…

I think the part that you are missing is that nobody cares about company Terms of Service.

The consequences are nonexistent to negligible at best.

If in this case Instagram kills someone's account because of this service, then Statimgram takes on the possible liability of damages if its worth it to the brand.

Having an understanding of how people spin up accounts on Instagram and build mass real targeted followers quickly and cheaply, it wouldn't even be worth it to sue. But again, Statimgram's liability. Low risk proposition though.

Re: Instagram grows to 1M active advertisers

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IANAL But that is the issue, you as a developer and provider may not run afoul of the terms directly, but your users will. Section 10 in the Basic Terms forbids accessing Instagrams Private API's. And if that isn't being used and you are a user of Instagram are running afoul of Section 4 of those terms in soliciting, collecting, or using the login credentials of other users. As well as your naming being in conflict w…

I think the part that you are missing is that nobody cares about company Terms of Service. The consequences are nonexistent to negligible at best. If in this case Instagram kills someone's account because of this service, then Statimgram takes on the possible liability of damages if its worth it to the brand. Having an understanding of how people spin up accounts on Instagram and build mass real targeted followers qu…

> The consequences are nonexistent to negligible at best.

Not in all cases. I work for a company that has a Facebook app at its core, and while we'd love to use a service like this to post to Instagram, it'd risk Facebook shutting our main app's access to the Facebook API down.

Re: Instagram grows to 1M active advertisers

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Has anyone noticed a huge influx of ads when using Instagram? Admittedly I'm an infrequent user but as I use Facebook less I find that time being spent on IG.

One technique that has worked for me to reduce the number of ads I see is to report every single one as "I find this offensive". Do that enough times and you won't see an ad for a long time.

Re: Instagram grows to 1M active advertisers

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I used to love Instagram, but since I tried to register an account for a new business (which it blocked before I could even sign in, thus consigning the username into oblivion) I haven't been able to log back into my personal account. It keeps sending me through a verify phase because of suspicious activity on my account. This leads to my successfully verifying, and then ending up at a 500 server error page, or a bad request 400 error page.[0] Attempts to search for this on the Instagram help page.. oh my gosh, I get as far as typing two characters into the search box and it locks me out saying I'm too fast. [1] (the search box is search as you type.) I try and report that as an error using an included link on that page, and low and behold that page is also having problems. [2]

It's a bit of a cluster... in my experience.

I really want to get back into my Instagram account!

I'm missing out getting advertised too, and I'm missing out advertising to others, it's pretty much a double whammy!

P.S. I'd love to prove I'm not a dirty spammer and get into the new business account too, but all attempts to fill out that form with the relevant evidence on Facebook/Instagram has been ignored.

[0] http://imgur.com/UMp6TTV [1] http://imgur.com/bbQtPPL [2] http://imgur.com/BTgNLAY

Re: Instagram grows to 1M active advertisers

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Same. I use Facebook for nothing but messaging now, and have every other feature blocked with my adblocker.

You can use messenger directly at https://www.messenger.com/

Is there a tinfoil to just use Messenger?

Re: Instagram grows to 1M active advertisers

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Instagram is awesome. I wish Facebook did not own them and Instagram stayed independent like Snapchat.

What would be different if Instagram was independent?

Facebook has become a privacy nightmare and has numerous concerns w/r/t ownership and management. Their role is the only reason I have any hesitation using Instagram, though I do fully embrace the platform anyway.

Re: Instagram grows to 1M active advertisers

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Does this violate their terms of service? I've heard they do not want desktop uploading or any form of uploading media through the API. I can't seem to find an API reference for uploading on api.instagram.com

We provide a full "end to end" posting service requiring no intervention from you after you have scheduled your posts (no push notifications to your phone and you having to open the Instagram app to post it for example. We don't use IG's API.

> We don't use IG's API.

This suggests that you're either using people, have found an effective automated method, or have reached agreement with IG.

If the first: how well will that scale with growth? If the second: what happens when the block this current method, or otherwise block your ability to do this because it violates some obscure ToS clause?

If the third: congratulations and best of luck!

Re: Instagram grows to 1M active advertisers

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IANAL But that is the issue, you as a developer and provider may not run afoul of the terms directly, but your users will. Section 10 in the Basic Terms forbids accessing Instagrams Private API's. And if that isn't being used and you are a user of Instagram are running afoul of Section 4 of those terms in soliciting, collecting, or using the login credentials of other users. As well as your naming being in conflict w…

I think the part that you are missing is that nobody cares about company Terms of Service. The consequences are nonexistent to negligible at best. If in this case Instagram kills someone's account because of this service, then Statimgram takes on the possible liability of damages if its worth it to the brand. Having an understanding of how people spin up accounts on Instagram and build mass real targeted followers qu…

> The consequences are nonexistent to negligible at best.

Unless you build a business model around violating them, and they shut you down when they discover it...

Arbitrary changes are always a risk when it comes to building for a third party platform, but if you're violating the ToS from the start, it's just asking for a 'worst case' scenario for your company and customers.

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