I'm not sure how you attract new people to work for a company with 19 straight quarters of declining sales. Pinky swear that they will turn around this time?
IBM has decided to co-locate its US marketing department
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Re: IBM has decided to co-locate its US marketing department
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
> perhaps the end goal is voluntary resignations? That's the only explanation that makes sense.
Why not simply fire those who they don't want to work with anymore? They're clearly used to do that at IBM and it would be much more controlled and cost effective.
They don't know who those people are :)
Re: IBM has decided to co-locate its US marketing department
#23Some thirty years ago I heard a joke from a friend's dad (employee of IBM) that it stands for "I've Been Moved".
So this is just "IBM Classic" showing through the modern varnish.
Re: IBM has decided to co-locate its US marketing department
#24> In a video message, Peluso, formerly the CEO of fashion startup Gilt, explained the “only one recipe I know for success.” Its ingredients included great people, the right tools, a mission, analysis of results, and one more thing: “really creative and inspiring locations.”
Why is this news coming from the CMO? Anyone know?
Re: IBM has decided to co-locate its US marketing department
#25This isn't universal - a good friend of mine works for a team that is getting shipped off to IBM as part of a merger, and told to apply for the new IBM jobs if they want to keep working there. Ignoring the ugliness of that situation for the moment, he specifically asked about this news of remote work ending as it relates to how coding jobs would be impacted, and was told that the jobs he was applying for were intende…
it might be that way while the company is run by ibm as a subsidiary, but my bet is the exception will end once they're full 'blue-washed'
Re: IBM has decided to co-locate its US marketing department
#26A theory among some employees is that IBM is using co-location as a downsizing effort. I hope it's not an accurate theory. Downsizing this way means your most self-motivated, productive employees are likely to leave long before those who drive to the office because they feel they have no other choice. Like Best Buy and Yahoo at the points at which they decided to co-locate, IBM is a business that needs to do somethin…
> Downsizing this way means your most self-motivated, productive employees are likely to leave long before those who drive to the office because they feel they have no other choice. Downsizing this way means people with kids or other obligations that make controlling your own schedule convenient are likely to leave long before those who drive to the office because they feel they have no other choice. FTFY.
You haven't really fixed much.
I personally know quite a few people where work from home is basically another word for coasting or taking care of personal stuff while logged into company's system. And since many of them are hardly motivated for technical work it is not going to be easy to get another job with similar compensation along with WFH facility.
Re: IBM has decided to co-locate its US marketing department
#27“It’s time for Act II: WINNING!” read the subject line of Peluos’s blog post Nothing says "high-quality leadership role-model" like Charlie Sheen.
Could also be presidential quote. This timeline we are on is really weird.
Abed (from Community) rolled the dice wrong and we're on the second darkest timeline.
I say second darkest because I believe there is a timeline where Trump would have started WW3 already.
Re: IBM has decided to co-locate its US marketing department
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
So IBM employees who refuse the company's formal request to colocate shouldn't be nervous about their status in the medium to long-term future?
I agree. I think this is first step to separate out people who are unwilling to relocate. Next they will look at the work they are doing, if deemed non-critical I assume they will be first to go.
I mean, isn't that the case with any job? So sure, this might be an extra consideration when the time for layoffs comes around.
My intention was not saying that nothing changed; emphasis on colocation is definitely a real thing. But IBM is not "ending remote work", as the headline says (it should be changed to the actual article title, which is more reasonable). It is most certainly allowed.
Re: IBM has decided to co-locate its US marketing department
#29A theory among some employees is that IBM is using co-location as a downsizing effort. I hope it's not an accurate theory. Downsizing this way means your most self-motivated, productive employees are likely to leave long before those who drive to the office because they feel they have no other choice. Like Best Buy and Yahoo at the points at which they decided to co-locate, IBM is a business that needs to do somethin…
> Downsizing this way means your most self-motivated, productive employees are likely to leave long before those who drive to the office because they feel they have no other choice. Downsizing this way means people with kids or other obligations that make controlling your own schedule convenient are likely to leave long before those who drive to the office because they feel they have no other choice. FTFY.
> FTFY.
Ehh, I don't have kids or have a need to control my own schedule. I still work remote as much as possible. If my job said "no more working remote", I'd be hunting for another place of employment.
From my own anecdotal experience, it's pretty prevalent that the high-performers in the software industry also have some sort of flex schedule that includes remote work.
Re: IBM has decided to co-locate its US marketing department
#30It worked out ever so well for Yahoo when Mayer did it so surely it'll work for IBM who has two orders of magnitude more employees...actually, perhaps the end goal is voluntary resignations?
> perhaps the end goal is voluntary resignations? That's the only explanation that makes sense.
> That's the only explanation that makes sense.
It does not have to make sense, could simply be a case of this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor
IBM could be a place where you just might encounter a pointy-haired boss from Dilbert.