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Laying a trap for self-driving cars

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Re: Laying a trap for self-driving cars

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> Of course, it’s just a regular car he drives into it for demonstration purposes. Because a self-driving car wouldn't have any reason to drive into the circle, so it wouldn't get "caught". The actual reason a regular car is used is because this is an "art installation" and not a serious critique of self-driving algorithms. A more effective trap would be a "no entry" sign on a one-way street (or one side of a dual ca…

could just surround a car with 4 people. What is it going to do, run someone over?

Re: Laying a trap for self-driving cars

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The road markings will be clearly visible, of course, since there will be self-driving snowplows around 24/7.

How are the road markings visible to the first snowplow?

There is no first "first snow plough", only a continuous stream of snow ploughs - at least until the AI goes on strike ;)

Re: Laying a trap for self-driving cars

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I wonder if we'll eventually see a world where the former Uber drivers who are slowly being lulled into dependence fight back when their jobs are automated away. Autonomous vehicles could be an easy target in a lot of ways, especially when unoccupied. Slap some electrical tape on their sensors, chock their tires, or confuse them with clever tactics like this.

> Autonomous vehicles could be an easy target An orwellian, neworked device with hundreds of sensors, cameras, laser scanners? Not so easy.

If you actually want to damage sensors of unattended autonomous vehicles you could do a lot worse than just like...shooting at it with a firearm. Delicate precision sensors don't take to bullets too well, also using firearms lets you be well outside the range of the target vehicle's sensors.

Re: Laying a trap for self-driving cars

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People do this to regular cars already with acts such as stealing stop signs. In some ways self driving cars will be easier to fool, but in other ways more difficult (eg, intersections with stop signs may also be contained in a database).

The best ones I've seen don't steal the sign, they take a big wrench and twist the post 90deg

Re: Laying a trap for self-driving cars

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I wonder if we'll eventually see a world where the former Uber drivers who are slowly being lulled into dependence fight back when their jobs are automated away. Autonomous vehicles could be an easy target in a lot of ways, especially when unoccupied. Slap some electrical tape on their sensors, chock their tires, or confuse them with clever tactics like this.

> Autonomous vehicles could be an easy target An orwellian, neworked device with hundreds of sensors, cameras, laser scanners? Not so easy.

It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear.

Re: Laying a trap for self-driving cars

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I wonder if we'll eventually see a world where the former Uber drivers who are slowly being lulled into dependence fight back when their jobs are automated away. Autonomous vehicles could be an easy target in a lot of ways, especially when unoccupied. Slap some electrical tape on their sensors, chock their tires, or confuse them with clever tactics like this.

> Autonomous vehicles could be an easy target An orwellian, neworked device with hundreds of sensors, cameras, laser scanners? Not so easy.

when red light cameras came to my town, a person dressed as Santa Claus carried large wrapped boxes with holes in the bottom. The person put the packages over the cameras. AFAIK, no one was ever charged.

Maybe in the future it'll be impossible to get away with things like that in the future.

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