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Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown

#21

Post by kalleboo »

overcast wrote: post #13
aaron-lebo wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, the docked mode is grating at times. You've got these great mechanics and beautiful world but constant input lag. Very frustrating. I'd prefer to be able to sit down and play on a TV at a higher resolution, but it's a worse experience. It effectively makes it a mobile game. It's 2017! 1080p or 60fps should be the minimum. To be fair that's not doable at $300 on a mobile gpu, but as a console that's rough. re: sc…

Depressing. I was going to wait till much later to even consider purchasing this. But I definitely won't be until that's addressed. Why isn't the screen glass?!

> Why isn't the screen glass?!

Durability when handled roughly by children?

Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown

#22

Post by kbumsik »

creativetaboo wrote: post #18
kbumsik wrote: post #16

It's a bit shame that there is no chip part information. I am particularly wondering which microcontroller they use for the remote controllers. I will wait for iFixit's teardown review.

They referenced the China leak which has all that information already: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/02/nintendo_switch_tea...

Thanks for the link. But nVida SoC is too obvious and I am not interested in it. I am waiting for a much more professional teardown review, inclding information of every parts, like this: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Oculus+Rift+CV1+Teardown/606...

Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown

#23

Post by [deleted] »

funkedelic_bob wrote: post #15
ndesaulniers wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I remember that a browser dev increased the Nexus 5's benchmark score drastically by placing it on a bag of ice. If the browser was stressing the system to the limits of the thermal envelope, then by being able to dissapate heat faster, you can schedule more work to be done delaying any kind of frequency governing.

That's crazy. I wonder if I can increase my output from my laptop working in front of an open freezer :P

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Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown

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Post by kalleboo »

funkedelic_bob wrote: post #15
ndesaulniers wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I remember that a browser dev increased the Nexus 5's benchmark score drastically by placing it on a bag of ice. If the browser was stressing the system to the limits of the thermal envelope, then by being able to dissapate heat faster, you can schedule more work to be done delaying any kind of frequency governing.

That's crazy. I wonder if I can increase my output from my laptop working in front of an open freezer :P

You can use Intel's power gadget to see the status of your CPU's temperature, power usage and clock frequency (i.e. if it's boosting, or if it's being throttled) https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-power-gadget...

e.g., if I start an h264 encode, first my CPU boosts, reaching 3.3 GHz (it's a 2.7 GHz i7), but after a minute, it's dropped to 2.4 GHz due to the thermals. Wouldn't surprise me if I stuck it in a freezer it would stay at a higher frequency.

Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown

#26

Post by gdulli »

overcast wrote: post #3

The dock is pretty underwhelming from what I've seen. There is no protection for the screen, sliding in between two pieces of plastic. Pretty cheap, for a premium priced, and well engineered hybrid device, that will be taken in and out. Semi-relevant. Breath of Wild looks like such a fantastic game, but it's completely ridiculous that the performance is often times WORSE in the docked mode. I'm hoping this is just cr…

I don't know how they justify selling it at the same price as the current gen consoles. You also have to pay extra for a real controller.

Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown

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Post by Zancarius »

notwhoyouthink wrote: post #5
WestCoastJustin wrote: post #4

This might be slightly off-topic, but if you like this type of teardown content, I highly recommend checking out AVE's channel on Youtube [1]. He does plenty of tool teardown's, things like drills, all types of heavy industrial gear, and some electronics thrown in. I find is fascinating, because you start to learn about the manufacturing process, why mechanical engineers choose specific materials, how they cut corner…

AvE is one of my favorite YouTubers. Always a learning experience with him. Similarly, bigclivedotcom[1] does almost exclusively electronics teardowns. Usually cheap gadgets from Chinese eBay sellers. A lot less profanity than AvE too, haha. [1] https://www.youtube.com/user/bigclivedotcom

Seconding this because Big Clive is easily among my top 5 favorites, but it might be because I absolutely love the dry witty humor (and having ties to the UK helps culturally, I'm sure). His Baby-cutor video [1] is absolutely hilarious (if you find dark humor fun). I actually enjoy Clive's videos more than AvE's. Although, I do wish Louis Rossmann would do teardowns periodically, but you can't have everything!

He also does a few build projects, sometimes with stories, and it's strangely... relaxing.

Gosh, I never thought I'd see his name pop up in a YT discussion on HN. This is great stuff.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIUJWIT9GrU

Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown

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Post by LandoCalrissian »

aaron-lebo wrote: post #7

I showed up at Target at 4 am and was second in line. Some other poor soul had been there since 11 and out of the 50 units available there were probably 10 people at opening. Not sure if that suggests demand isn't that great or what. It's hard to figure out. Check out the unit next to the Wii U tablet and the latter looks very much like a clunky cheap toy. Everything here seems well-designed (don't scratch your scree…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpqaTdflkNU

You are not wrong. I appears docked has the hiccups.

Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown

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Post by knodi123 »

aaron-lebo wrote: post #8
overcast wrote: post #3

The dock is pretty underwhelming from what I've seen. There is no protection for the screen, sliding in between two pieces of plastic. Pretty cheap, for a premium priced, and well engineered hybrid device, that will be taken in and out. Semi-relevant. Breath of Wild looks like such a fantastic game, but it's completely ridiculous that the performance is often times WORSE in the docked mode. I'm hoping this is just cr…

Yes, the docked mode is grating at times. You've got these great mechanics and beautiful world but constant input lag. Very frustrating. I'd prefer to be able to sit down and play on a TV at a higher resolution, but it's a worse experience. It effectively makes it a mobile game. It's 2017! 1080p or 60fps should be the minimum. To be fair that's not doable at $300 on a mobile gpu, but as a console that's rough. re: sc…

> v2 should be nice

Has there ever been a v2 of a nintendo console?

Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown

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Post by darren_ »

knodi123 wrote: post #29
aaron-lebo wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, the docked mode is grating at times. You've got these great mechanics and beautiful world but constant input lag. Very frustrating. I'd prefer to be able to sit down and play on a TV at a higher resolution, but it's a worse experience. It effectively makes it a mobile game. It's 2017! 1080p or 60fps should be the minimum. To be fair that's not doable at $300 on a mobile gpu, but as a console that's rough. re: sc…

> v2 should be nice Has there ever been a v2 of a nintendo console?

GBA sp, new 3ds. It's not unheard of.
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