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Re: Amper raises $4M to use AI to write music

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Post by duality » Fri, Mar 03, 2017, 3:20 PM UTC

CamelCaseName wrote: post #19

romaniv wrote: post #17

We can't automate filling out Excel spreadsheets, but investing 4 million dollars in automating music creation. Meanwhile there are plenty of CC-licensed tracks and plenty of aspiring composers/producers who would gladly work on creating tracks for "commercials or short online videos" for very reasonable price.

I think the question is of quality. Many people can make music, and anyone can automate making noise, but automating making music, good music, is something that's hard to do, and has a huge market. One can hope that one day we'll be autogenerating music based on individual preferences in a way that every piece you hear is a unique arrangement.

I wouldn't want that any more than I'd never want to eat a favorite dish again. Novelty can be nice but it's not the only thing that makes an experience good.

Re: Amper raises $4M to use AI to write music

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Post by zitterbewegung » Fri, Mar 03, 2017, 3:25 PM UTC

romaniv wrote: post #17

We can't automate filling out Excel spreadsheets, but investing 4 million dollars in automating music creation. Meanwhile there are plenty of CC-licensed tracks and plenty of aspiring composers/producers who would gladly work on creating tracks for "commercials or short online videos" for very reasonable price.

We can automate filling out of Excel spreadsheets. See flash fill : https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Use-AutoFill-and-Fl...

Re: Amper raises $4M to use AI to write music

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Post by raverbashing » Fri, Mar 03, 2017, 3:36 PM UTC

I've listened to the examples and it seems a very nice work in progress

However it still sounds like basic themes put together and not a song with beginning/middle/end

Re: Amper raises $4M to use AI to write music

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Post by Nihilartikel » Fri, Mar 03, 2017, 3:52 PM UTC

Well, the AI learned that Epic Cinematic soundtracks need the Inception BRAAAM (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/braaams-beginners-how-...) noise on every full measure. That's pretty impressive. https://soundcloud.com/ampermusic/epic-cinematic

Re: Amper raises $4M to use AI to write music

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Post by Existenceblinks » Fri, Mar 03, 2017, 3:57 PM UTC

Existenceblinks wrote: post #3

Do anyone know why music, video or basically media service|app have the dark theme like PS, LR, Premiere Pro, Final Cut etc. ?

My fault: s/Do/Does/

:-1:

Re: Amper raises $4M to use AI to write music

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Post by Existenceblinks » Fri, Mar 03, 2017, 4:01 PM UTC

scardine wrote: post #7

Existenceblinks wrote: post #3

Do anyone know why music, video or basically media service|app have the dark theme like PS, LR, Premiere Pro, Final Cut etc. ?

We were discussing dark vs light themes at the office and the general conclusion is that dark is in fashion, no logical reason. I use a light theme because I get a lot of light in the afternoon (even with curtains closed) and the glossy mac monitor turns into a mirror with a dark theme.

I see your pain. Did you try turning the monitor or desk to different angles? Is is funny sometimes seeing my dark face in code editor :-)

Re: Amper raises $4M to use AI to write music

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Post by Existenceblinks » Fri, Mar 03, 2017, 4:04 PM UTC

vidarh wrote: post #10

fastbeef wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Easier on the eyes. When working with media you tend to stare at details for long periods of time, a dark theme makes the UI non-distracting.

Everything I use a lot has a dark theme - it's easier on my eyes. That includes websites, thanks to Stylish.

Could you share your snippet? I use stylish just for turning gray/dark theme websites(domestic ones) back to colorful again since the King's passed away :/

Re: Amper raises $4M to use AI to write music

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Post by Existenceblinks » Fri, Mar 03, 2017, 4:10 PM UTC

fastbeef wrote: post #6

Existenceblinks wrote: post #3

Do anyone know why music, video or basically media service|app have the dark theme like PS, LR, Premiere Pro, Final Cut etc. ?

Easier on the eyes. When working with media you tend to stare at details for long periods of time, a dark theme makes the UI non-distracting.

I agree with non-distracting in in-the-other-hand perspective. Dark theme makes me too focus on the work. In long period, it behaves like a magnifier in sunny day, the focal point burns thing so quickly.

Re: Amper raises $4M to use AI to write music

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Post by dhogan » Fri, Mar 03, 2017, 4:11 PM UTC

maroonblazer wrote: post #8

This looks promising. Having spent many years editing stock music for video we'd spend considerable time not only finding the right mood/genre but also editing the track to make it seem like it was "composed" specifically for the video. So, I think this solution only addresses half the problem. What would be better is if you could download the individual tracks to import into a DAW where you could further edit/manipu…

I imagine you could generate MIDI files to get most of a song and then edit them as you see fit

Re: Amper raises $4M to use AI to write music

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Post by TheOtherHobbes » Fri, Mar 03, 2017, 4:12 PM UTC

Interesting. Sound choices are good, but the chord/harmony logic is pretty mediocre. I suspect there's an extremely simple Markov thing going on.

That may be good enough for production music.

At least it sounds like music, which puts it way ahead of most musical AI projects.