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UK government considering a “cut-off date” for EU citizens’ rights to residency

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Re: UK government considering a “cut-off date” for EU citizens’ rights to residency

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post #6

It's sad how even the Independent is now taken by misleading headlines. They are considering stopping it 'after a “cut-off date”'' to prevent abuse of people from poor eastern Europe countries to flood UK before it leaves the EU. Right there in the first couple of paragraphs. I used to have a lot of respect for the BBC, Financial Times, and The Independent. Even The Guardian being partisan had the basic decency of pu…

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Re: UK government considering a “cut-off date” for EU citizens’ rights to residency

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My perspective is a little bit different. If they want to kick me out, I'll go somewhere else. I am Irish; the probability is high that my nationality will be treated differently owing to history. But if they want me to ask to stay, they can go fuck themselves.

"If they want me to ask to stay, they can go fuck themselves." Swede living in London here. I've got exactly the same opinion.

Dane living in Nottingham here, I feel the exact same way.

I am working remote, so my job moves with me, and it might be back home, hopefully with my british girlfriend :) but I fear the future, and how much bureaucracy we will face.

Re: UK government considering a “cut-off date” for EU citizens’ rights to residency

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post #12

OK, wait, this does not make sense. If half of Romania an Bulgaria wanted to come to the UK, they would already be there. Because free movement already exists. Why would anyone decide now to "quickly move to the UK", just because they are leaving the EU? I would rather see this as a disincentive to move there, as a EU citicen, right now...

Because you're probably a high-paid professional (reasonable assumption for a HN user) and are not considering staying in the country illegally after you arrive.

Bulgarians have had all this time (10 years) to go live in the UK legally. Why would they suddenly rush to leave everything behind and go live there illegally? It doesn't make any sense.

Re: UK government considering a “cut-off date” for EU citizens’ rights to residency

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post #6

It's sad how even the Independent is now taken by misleading headlines. They are considering stopping it 'after a “cut-off date”'' to prevent abuse of people from poor eastern Europe countries to flood UK before it leaves the EU. Right there in the first couple of paragraphs. I used to have a lot of respect for the BBC, Financial Times, and The Independent. Even The Guardian being partisan had the basic decency of pu…

I mean... it's a headline. The point is to read the story.

Re: UK government considering a “cut-off date” for EU citizens’ rights to residency

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post #12

OK, wait, this does not make sense. If half of Romania an Bulgaria wanted to come to the UK, they would already be there. Because free movement already exists. Why would anyone decide now to "quickly move to the UK", just because they are leaving the EU? I would rather see this as a disincentive to move there, as a EU citicen, right now...

Because you're probably a high-paid professional (reasonable assumption for a HN user) and are not considering staying in the country illegally after you arrive.

> Because you're probably a high-paid professional (reasonable assumption for a HN user)

But the article is not about people from hacker news, it's about any EU citizen.

Re: UK government considering a “cut-off date” for EU citizens’ rights to residency

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post #9
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My perspective is a little bit different. If they want to kick me out, I'll go somewhere else. I am Irish; the probability is high that my nationality will be treated differently owing to history. But if they want me to ask to stay, they can go fuck themselves.

> If they want to kick me out Did the article? This is about a cutoff date to stop a wave of last minute immigrants. Nothing about expelling current ones. Don't let clickbait headlines make you angry.

"Nothing about expelling current ones. "

Don't be so sure about that: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/feb/26/grandmother-...

Re: UK government considering a “cut-off date” for EU citizens’ rights to residency

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post #12

OK, wait, this does not make sense. If half of Romania an Bulgaria wanted to come to the UK, they would already be there. Because free movement already exists. Why would anyone decide now to "quickly move to the UK", just because they are leaving the EU? I would rather see this as a disincentive to move there, as a EU citicen, right now...

It's fairly easy to foresee a rush to get in before the door closes.

Re: UK government considering a “cut-off date” for EU citizens’ rights to residency

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post #12

OK, wait, this does not make sense. If half of Romania an Bulgaria wanted to come to the UK, they would already be there. Because free movement already exists. Why would anyone decide now to "quickly move to the UK", just because they are leaving the EU? I would rather see this as a disincentive to move there, as a EU citicen, right now...

Because you're probably a high-paid professional (reasonable assumption for a HN user) and are not considering staying in the country illegally after you arrive.

You're confusing right to live with right to travel. You don't need the right to live in order to go to the UK and work illegally.

Re: UK government considering a “cut-off date” for EU citizens’ rights to residency

#29
post #6

It's sad how even the Independent is now taken by misleading headlines. They are considering stopping it 'after a “cut-off date”'' to prevent abuse of people from poor eastern Europe countries to flood UK before it leaves the EU. Right there in the first couple of paragraphs. I used to have a lot of respect for the BBC, Financial Times, and The Independent. Even The Guardian being partisan had the basic decency of pu…

> They are considering stopping it 'after a “cut-off date”'' to prevent abuse of people from poor eastern Europe countries to flood UK before it leaves the EU. Right there in the first couple of paragraphs.

What abuse? People finding jobs in the UK?

Re: UK government considering a “cut-off date” for EU citizens’ rights to residency

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post #19
post #2

It makes sense, I don't think anyone could realistically expect anything different. Considering it's basically a starting negotiating position, it's actually pretty good from my perspective (EU national who has formally been granted permanent residency by exercising his treaty rights). Obviously the devil is in the details, i.e. what it will mean exactly "after the cutoff date": if one has lived in UK long enough to…

> If you are an EU citizen looking to move to the UK: just don't I call BS on that. UK is quite open to LEGAL worker immigration from anywhere around the world. What's the big deal? I worked in UK for years and I'm not EU. Many Americans, Asians, Australians, etc. go through these channels without issue. After a few years they give you residentship. And shortly after that they give you citizenship. It's crazy how thi…

Didn't the Conservatives campaign in the last election about bringing legal immigration numbers down to <100K/year?
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