Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is that ironic?
Because Apple makes software walled-gardens.
Isn't that actually the opposite of "ironic", then?
Apple Park Opens to Employees in April
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Re: Apple Park Opens to Employees in April
#22Parts of this should be open to the public. The public has had to endure all of the construction and has lost a large amount of land-space that could have been used for the community. Instead, we have a completely private & inaccessible area. Sure, there are cafes, fitness centers, and working areas within the building but none of it is public and all at the expense of the people who live there.
This sounds like pure NIMBY entitlement to me. "How DARE they build a corporate headquarters when they could have built a PARK!?"
Somehow I doubt the construction of this facility incurred any meaningful "expense" to any of "the people who live there"
Re: Apple Park Opens to Employees in April
#23Parts of this should be open to the public. The public has had to endure all of the construction and has lost a large amount of land-space that could have been used for the community. Instead, we have a completely private & inaccessible area. Sure, there are cafes, fitness centers, and working areas within the building but none of it is public and all at the expense of the people who live there.
> Parts of this should be open to the public.
Who do you think financed this? Apple consumers and investors (I am one) that's who, not taxpayers. Why should it be open to the public? If it were a government project it would still be under construction for the next 10 years.
> The public has had to endure all of the construction and has lost a large amount of land-space that could have been used for the community.
Or, in reality, Apple bought the real-estate, and pumped hundreds of millions (actually I just looked it up, it is billions with a B) of dollars into the economy and put scores of construction, engineers, and high skilled people to work building it. This isn't soviet Russia comrade.
Re: Apple Park Opens to Employees in April
#24This is so beautiful and inspiring. A real legacy. Imagine a world without Apple computers pushing the envelope. We'd still be using wired mice and ugly black boxes. If only Steve Jobs had taken the traditional medicine route he would have been with us for another 50 years.
As much as Steve gets credit, the real credit goes to the thousands of engineers that were the ones who created the envelope of which to push, and then kept pushing that one as well. Its never one man. Its unfortunate he chose to not use proven medicine as a treatment, though.
Why not quote Steve Jobs? He said it much better.
"Great things in business are never done by one person. They're done by a team of people." Steve Jobs
Re: Apple Park Opens to Employees in April
#25Parts of this should be open to the public. The public has had to endure all of the construction and has lost a large amount of land-space that could have been used for the community. Instead, we have a completely private & inaccessible area. Sure, there are cafes, fitness centers, and working areas within the building but none of it is public and all at the expense of the people who live there.
If the public wants to use land for a community park, then they should buy some land and build a park. It's not Apple's responsibility to fund it for them. Cities all over the country manage to build and maintain parks on their own. I'm sure Cupertino gets, or at least could get, a lot of tax revenue from Apple.
Re: Apple Park Opens to Employees in April
#26This is so beautiful and inspiring. A real legacy. Imagine a world without Apple computers pushing the envelope. We'd still be using wired mice and ugly black boxes. If only Steve Jobs had taken the traditional medicine route he would have been with us for another 50 years.
> We'd still be using wired mice and ugly black boxes. im pretty sure a lot of people use wired mice and have black boxes as their desktop computer case.
... and are perfectly happy doing it. Heck, I even use an "ugly black box" as my laptop (an older Lenovo thinkpad) :)
Re: Apple Park Opens to Employees in April
#27Wait there's 17 megawatts of solar on this thing? Would love to hear more about how this integrated into the facility. That is an immense PV array.
Re: Apple Park Opens to Employees in April
#28Parts of this should be open to the public. The public has had to endure all of the construction and has lost a large amount of land-space that could have been used for the community. Instead, we have a completely private & inaccessible area. Sure, there are cafes, fitness centers, and working areas within the building but none of it is public and all at the expense of the people who live there.
If you read the press release, there is a public visitors centre, cafe and Apple Store.
Re: Apple Park Opens to Employees in April
#29This is so beautiful and inspiring. A real legacy. Imagine a world without Apple computers pushing the envelope. We'd still be using wired mice and ugly black boxes. If only Steve Jobs had taken the traditional medicine route he would have been with us for another 50 years.
I'd like nothing more than a wired Magic Trackpad. Batteries suck.
Re: Apple Park Opens to Employees in April
#30This is so beautiful and inspiring. A real legacy. Imagine a world without Apple computers pushing the envelope. We'd still be using wired mice and ugly black boxes. If only Steve Jobs had taken the traditional medicine route he would have been with us for another 50 years.
> Imagine a world without Apple computers pushing the envelope. We'd still be using wired mice and ugly black boxes.
I strongly disagree with these classes of statements. Would we not have calculus without Newton? Great ideas tend to often happen simultaneously for a reason.
Building of more complex abstractions (metaphors in the context of language) allows us collectively to consider ideas that previously we could have never considered (i.e. it increases our perception). Julian Jaynes on the power of metaphor for unlocking new ideas:
> All of these concrete metaphors increase enormously our powers of perception of the world about us and our understanding of it, and literally create new objects. Indeed, language is an organ of perception, not simply a means of communication.
If Jobs and crew hadn't done what they did, someone else would have. The timeline may not have been the same, but even 'geniuses' must exist within the context of their society and world.