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Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by mc32 »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #19
ethana wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stucked in time: http://www.excite.com/

Wow. This page is actually strangely appealing. It loads fast. I don't have to click off to another page to get the news headlines. Ads are restrained to just a couple square boxes.

It's almost like a knock off of a Japanese "portal" except its not but rather its sort of a fossilized 1999, except it has SSL.

And to think they had the opportunity to buy Google for 750K after Vinod talked Page and Brin down from 1MM

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by dredmorbius »

Animats wrote: post #5

It's not ad-supported, so Google has to actually sell the service and collect money from large numbers of small users. Google is not good at that.

Cost of sales / cost of revenues is in general a huge problem, and there's a long history of benefits accruing to businesses which work out how to bypass that.

Magazine subscriptions (bundling), utility services (a novel concept in the late 19th century), governments (taxes), banks, etc.

It's why the enterprise market is far more appealing, generally: make a few large-ticket enterprise sales (mostly to the F-10 - F-500), even if they do take forever to land, and roll in the recurring revenues.

Retail sales is far more about the distribution deals than the register sales (the second follows the first). Competition is generally over the marketing channel and/or real estate (look up "dark grocery stores" for more on that last).

Or as I'd realised the first time I heard Milt F. rattle on about TANSTAFL, there's no such thing as a free lunch revenue-capture system either.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by Theodores »

Animats wrote: post #5

It's not ad-supported, so Google has to actually sell the service and collect money from large numbers of small users. Google is not good at that.

Google are only interested in selling things by the billion or billion, therefore things like the robots have to go. This is one of those products that does not sell to millions and therefore it has to be got rid of.

Not sure when the 'must sell billions' idea came along, it was before the Pixel phone but is a relatively new idea for Google.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by laurentdc »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #19
ethana wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stucked in time: http://www.excite.com/

Wow. This page is actually strangely appealing. It loads fast. I don't have to click off to another page to get the news headlines. Ads are restrained to just a couple square boxes.

Amazing. It even renders more or less decently on mobile.

I'm going to start a new trend in web design. I'll call it 56k design.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by vacri »

Groxx wrote: post #13
avar wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They manage that with Google Music, recurring Play store payments etc.

With a couple orders of magnitude more users, yes. Willing to pay $100/year to remove branding on a search engine you add to your website is far, far less common than "willing to pay to listen to music".

Plenty of small businesses spring for gmail and Google Apps for Business

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by kristopolous »

ethana wrote: post #18
mc32 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since they pushed Excite out of this business, who will take up the slack?

Stucked in time: http://www.excite.com/

look at the source. Something makes me think this will work in Netscape 4.

edit: nope. http://imgur.com/a/Jt38q not really.

edit 2: Here's a HP B-series PA-RISC from my closet running actual vintage NS-4, also no, http://i.imgur.com/tt7AYqj.png (the top window is a search for the term "cat")

Google however, almost still works http://i.imgur.com/kdTd1AU.png ... I give them an A. hn and kernel.org get a security algorithm error, reddit gets an i/o error as does craigslist and yahoo. wiki.c2.com has a perpetual spinner. netbsd here makes me sad to be such a fanboy: http://i.imgur.com/RxedDF6.png

http://gnu.org is totally acceptable, even in Netscape 3! http://i.imgur.com/RImHQjM.png

http://fsf.org errors at an appropriate place: http://i.imgur.com/g8TF8Uc.png but after that is usable.

http://berkshirehathaway.com loads perfectly and looks the same.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by seanp2k2 »

century19 wrote: post #17
tbrowbdidnso wrote: post #2

What? Why? You can still do the same search by typing site:URL in Google so it's literally zero investment by them to keep it workinf. And these people were paying for it. I can't help think this has something to do with their AMP articles. They don't want you to leave google, ever

I believe that this Enterprise Search can be used for pages that are not freely available on the Internet. I've seen it used on portals where you have to be logged in to access the content.

Not sure how much it overlaps with https://enterprise.google.com/search/products/gsa.html or what the future for GSA is, given Google's track record for discontinuing products.
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