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Re: Tripling Down Against USA Conference Hosting

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Post by grzm » Mon, Jan 30, 2017, 5:09 AM UTC

CamperBob2 wrote: post #19

xiaoma wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The next most important start-up hub after SF is Beijing. It's much more affordable than SF, but there are other concerns with hosting conferences there such as pollution, speech and media controls and a lot of regulation in general. edit: I had no idea there was so much China hate here. I'm no fan of certain policies of the government, believe me. I hate the GFW with a passion. But the entrepreneurial community is i…

Sorry, mods can be real asshats on here.

That only mods are 'dang and 'sctb. Are you referring to them? Or do you mean members who are downvoting? If the latter, please don't refer to them as mods.

And regardless, kindly don't resort to name calling.

Re: Tripling Down Against USA Conference Hosting

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Post by astrodust » Mon, Jan 30, 2017, 5:12 AM UTC

xiaoma wrote: post #20

astrodust wrote: post #18

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You're already on the Pacific coast. Not everyone on the planet is. Under optimal circumstances, not including airport time which can be considerable, flight time between New York and Shanghai is 15 hours. Add in a few hours to check-in, clear customs, plus other nonsense and you're up to 18. Under ideal circumstances.

A lot more people on the planet live near Beijing than near Iceland.

If you're talking about India and China, sure.

If you're talking about America and Europe? Nope.

Re: Tripling Down Against USA Conference Hosting

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Post by santaclaus » Mon, Jan 30, 2017, 5:15 AM UTC

cperciva wrote: post #9

noonespecial wrote: post #2

Just the first ripples against the shore of what I expect to be a tsunami of unexpected consequences. Seems like a golden opportunity for another country to step up and become the "conference center of the world". I'd LOL extra hard if it turned out to be Mexico.

Seems like a golden opportunity for another country to step up and become the "conference center of the world". I'd LOL extra hard if it turned out to be Mexico. Can I suggest Canada for this purpose? We're a cheaper conference destination than the USA, Europe, or Japan; have a fluently English-speaking population anywhere conferences would be held (most people in Montreal are bilingual); have good infrastructure; an…

> We're a cheaper conference destination than the USA, Europe, or Japan

Errr, our field's major conf is in Vancouver every other year and those hotel rooms are crazy pants expensive.

Re: Tripling Down Against USA Conference Hosting

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Post by nrjdhsbsid » Mon, Jan 30, 2017, 5:15 AM UTC

xiaoma wrote: post #4

petercooper wrote: post #3

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A few years ago I raised the idea (on Twitter) of Iceland being a nice "neutral" venue that's equally (in)convenient for both US and European attendees, very liberal and progressive, and, at the time, cheap for a Nordic country. I have since seen a handful of industry conferences take place there, but it hasn't really blown up (one reason, I suspect, is it's reasonably expensive to stay there now - Iceland's decline…

The next most important start-up hub after SF is Beijing. It's much more affordable than SF, but there are other concerns with hosting conferences there such as pollution, speech and media controls and a lot of regulation in general. edit: I had no idea there was so much China hate here. I'm no fan of certain policies of the government, believe me. I hate the GFW with a passion. But the entrepreneurial community is i…

That would be great for conferences if it wasn't for everything you mentioned plus high levels of govt corruption and IP theft. The lack of open Internet alone is enough that the vast majority of conferences simply cannot be held there.

It's not "China hate" when there's legitimate reasons.

Re: Tripling Down Against USA Conference Hosting

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Post by uiri » Mon, Jan 30, 2017, 5:22 AM UTC

Side note: Could the mods remove "?m=1" from the URL? On a mobile device, the URL without that GET parameter redirects to the URL with that parameter to show the mobile site. On a non-mobile device, the URL with the parameter looks rather different from the URL without the parameter.

Re: Tripling Down Against USA Conference Hosting

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Post by sandworm101 » Mon, Jan 30, 2017, 5:23 AM UTC

Im heading to a US security conference in a couple weeks. I really dont want to go but have to meet with a client there. If i am given any guff at the boarder im going to tell that client why we can no longer do business.

Re: Tripling Down Against USA Conference Hosting

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Post by psybin » Mon, Jan 30, 2017, 5:48 AM UTC

cperciva wrote: post #17

wattt wrote: post #16

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Why do you think Canada wouldn't be as good for Central or South Americans? There are flights to Central and South America from almost everywhere in Canada. I speak Spanish in Canada often.

Two reasons. First, flying to Canada is simply a longer flight. Second, the USA has some rules concerning passengers on flights in US airspace; it's possible that people who couldn't attend a conference in the USA wouldn't be allowed to fly over the USA either.

They mostly seem to have issues with flights that transit through the US, which you can avoid.

Re: Tripling Down Against USA Conference Hosting

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jan 30, 2017, 5:49 AM UTC

cperciva wrote: post #17

wattt wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you think Canada wouldn't be as good for Central or South Americans? There are flights to Central and South America from almost everywhere in Canada. I speak Spanish in Canada often.

Two reasons. First, flying to Canada is simply a longer flight. Second, the USA has some rules concerning passengers on flights in US airspace; it's possible that people who couldn't attend a conference in the USA wouldn't be allowed to fly over the USA either.

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Re: Tripling Down Against USA Conference Hosting

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Post by jimjimjim » Mon, Jan 30, 2017, 5:49 AM UTC

Australia and New Zealand.

That way if the world ends while you're away you'll be able to read about it in the morning

Re: Tripling Down Against USA Conference Hosting

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Post by toomanybeersies » Mon, Jan 30, 2017, 5:53 AM UTC

mirimir wrote: post #12

noonespecial wrote: post #2

Just the first ripples against the shore of what I expect to be a tsunami of unexpected consequences. Seems like a golden opportunity for another country to step up and become the "conference center of the world". I'd LOL extra hard if it turned out to be Mexico.

Spain makes the most sense. Geographically, more or less. And economically too, I think.

Unfortunately for me, being in New Zealand, Spain is literally as far away as you can get.