Anybody else seeing that the site is broken? It says 1 vote still, even after signing and confirming my email.
The petition just got created under an hour ago, and the signature counter probably doesn't update in real time.
Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester
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#22Does the White House Petition website still work? I mean, I am surprised it is still up. Surely the new administration would A) not pay attention to it and B) simply scrap it to avoid maintaining it.
As far as I understand, there is no legal requirement for the White House to even entertain the petitions.[1]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_the_People_(petitioning_sys...
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#23How this is happening, the exact trajectory of how much worse these things are (and its potential to worsen) is somewhat terrifying, especially when you consider the cavalier disregard and easy ignorance that this policy represents. I know classmates and colleagues and friends who are discussing, in their groups and communities, how to best help people stranded, whether or not vacations and returns to see ill family…
Hopefully this will lead to a change in direction from delegation to the executive, to deliberated by congress.
Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester
#24Does the White House Petition website still work? I mean, I am surprised it is still up. Surely the new administration would A) not pay attention to it and B) simply scrap it to avoid maintaining it. As far as I understand, there is no legal requirement for the White House to even entertain the petitions.[1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_the_People_(petitioning_sys...
It's a cheap way to let political enemies identify themselves, though.
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#25Does the White House Petition website still work? I mean, I am surprised it is still up. Surely the new administration would A) not pay attention to it and B) simply scrap it to avoid maintaining it. As far as I understand, there is no legal requirement for the White House to even entertain the petitions.[1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_the_People_(petitioning_sys...
It was an effort (at times, half hearted), at transparency by Obama, it has no legal weight, no. Do we have hope it will even be considered by Trump considering how they aren't even taking calls? No.
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#26What's scary is the new immigration ban affects legal, permanent residents. US legal, permanent residents that have firmly rooted their lives in the US, only to be told they can't come home.
This. I am from Turkey, and i will be nervous every passing day from yesterday on, watching news to see if Turkey is added to the list. I am still years away from naturalization, and it saddens me to think about relocating, after having left where i was born for a better and productive life. Nobody chooses their birthplace, but these are the people that decided to make a change, and in a way that historically benefit…
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#27Though I see this is a whitehouse.gov site, I'm curious as to what counts as a legitimate signature. I'm not American, not a resident, and not in America, so what happens if I sign this petition?
Does anybody know how they figure this out? Do a bunch of signatures from people who have no rights in the US invalidate the petition?
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#28Please also remember to sign the petition, in addition to discussing it in the comments! 100k signatures is a lot, but not for HackerNews ;)
And share with others. This is only one poor guy, but there's plenty more like him out there who have done everything right and jumped through the USCIS hoops to get here legally with the goal of improving their (and potentially their family's) life. This is beyond wrong and now is not the time to sit on our hands.
EDIT: Link looks like it is currently broken for me too.
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#29Please also remember to sign the petition, in addition to discussing it in the comments! 100k signatures is a lot, but not for HackerNews ;)
Question: Can people outside the US sign the petition as well, or does it have more validity if only US residents sign it?
I want to sign it, but don't want it to be used against the petition later if someone in the administration says it is a 'fake petition' because x% of outside the US jurisdiction signed it.
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#30Though I see this is a whitehouse.gov site, I'm curious as to what counts as a legitimate signature. I'm not American, not a resident, and not in America, so what happens if I sign this petition? Does anybody know how they figure this out? Do a bunch of signatures from people who have no rights in the US invalidate the petition?
The petition doesn't mean anything to begin with.
The previous administration used them as a PR device. They aren't binding. Who knows if it is even intentional that it still works.