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Succeeding Against the Odds Can Make You Sick

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Dr. James expects John Henryism can now be seen across Western democracies, wherever people are inculcated with a Protestant sense of personal responsibility and belief in self-reliance. This is garbage. What actually is the source of all this unneeded suffering is when people choose to believe the all-pervasive Western media, movie, and music refrain that success is measured by material wealth and prosperity. The Pr…

I strongly agree with everything you are saying here. But that said, I do think its prevailing thinking among protestants in the US; who are generally right leaning welfare hating lovers of Christ.

Further, real Christians (who live by the God given principles of honest hard work as you describe it above) are few and far between.

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Dr. James expects John Henryism can now be seen across Western democracies, wherever people are inculcated with a Protestant sense of personal responsibility and belief in self-reliance. This is garbage. What actually is the source of all this unneeded suffering is when people choose to believe the all-pervasive Western media, movie, and music refrain that success is measured by material wealth and prosperity. The Pr…

All work, no ethics.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there info about social status. Because Trump should be on his deathbed now and Obama must be already very very sick. And generally speaking successful politicians live long. Castro, Mugabe... And they did had a lot of adversaries. And won against the odds.

That was exactly what was going through my mind. Trump basically fought and won against the GOP establishment, the democrats, media and the pollsters and made it. He is still at war with the media and the world at large still hates him. He seems pretty unperturbed though.

Interestingly, Trump doesn't drink alcohol (his older brother had died of alcoholism).

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Just for fun I'll go ahead and translate how this article reads in my mind- since thankfully I don't naively believe that I am of a singular race or ascribe my personality to some form of nationalism which has only existed for a little over 200 years (here is how we seriously talk in my house). Monoracials continuing to divide themselves into imaginary compartments have discovered that thinking too hard about a society of pro-inbreeding (we don't use the word 'racist' just 'pro-inbreeding') can cause auto-immune disorders. The antiquated pagan-but-not-pagan work ethic is what typifies the monoracial experience as most of their life is based on overt simplifications. Just for fun we will bring up the current political climate where most Americans have chosen a single race for the outgoing president and have applied it's meaning into somehow being contrary to the one born with a silver spoon in his mouth- who happens to be very pro-inbreeding. When we look at things like pure-bred dogs which are born with a gamut of mental problems and physical deficiencies- its easy for any group of monoracials to say 'That's how I want to be like a crazy pure-bred dog that's me!'. The 'Blacks' (the author doesn't specify here if black means African, West Indian, Hispanic, Moorish, etc..) as this expert points out are the only people worth mentioning because if you are not of a singular race (in your head of course no one is of a singular race) than you don't exist and nobody cares about your troubles.

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TLDR (or at least what I took from it): Too much adversity produces stress that is bad for the body in that it ages your immune system much faster than it should. Sounds plausible.

Important qualifier: (I only read up to the middle) the results were largely associated with African American subjects.

Also found recently in a Finnish population (skimmed through the end.)

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Dr. James expects John Henryism can now be seen across Western democracies, wherever people are inculcated with a Protestant sense of personal responsibility and belief in self-reliance. This is garbage. What actually is the source of all this unneeded suffering is when people choose to believe the all-pervasive Western media, movie, and music refrain that success is measured by material wealth and prosperity. The Pr…

This is more God/Bible than I think I've ever seen on HN

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Just for fun I'll go ahead and translate how this article reads in my mind- since thankfully I don't naively believe that I am of a singular race or ascribe my personality to some form of nationalism which has only existed for a little over 200 years (here is how we seriously talk in my house). Monoracials continuing to divide themselves into imaginary compartments have discovered that thinking too hard about a socie…

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump seems to enjoy the fight; I wonder if he finds it stressful.

If you start with a massive inheritance, to some extent that will diminish the stress. Bathing in gold-plated bathtubs also cuts stress, and grabbing felines because you can. One could argue that a black American would have great difficulty taking advantage of these stress reliefs.

Can we put aside the partisan attacks and have a rational discussion here on Hacker News?

In that spirit, I think you're wrong about inherited wealth, gold, and women who "let you do it" being unavailable to black Americans.

A small number of people of both races have access to these things.

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Just for fun I'll go ahead and translate how this article reads in my mind- since thankfully I don't naively believe that I am of a singular race or ascribe my personality to some form of nationalism which has only existed for a little over 200 years (here is how we seriously talk in my house). Monoracials continuing to divide themselves into imaginary compartments have discovered that thinking too hard about a socie…

I like the term "monoracial".

In your view, how granular is that? That is - if someone is half Italian and half Swedish - are they monoracial?

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