Welcome Chris Lattner • Hacker News Board

Re: Welcome Chris Lattner

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Post by forgotpwtomain » Tue, Jan 10, 2017, 10:28 PM UTC

chimeracoder wrote: post #17

carlosdp wrote: post #6

Wow, that was unexpected. Great hire by Tesla. Interesting move from compiler development to driving AI, though I guess for the VP position, his experience in managing those teams is much more important.

> Wow, that was unexpected. Great poach by Tesla. Tangential, but I really hate the term "poach" when referring to recruiting employees. We shouldn't think of hiring people as "poaching", because employees are not property. You can't "poach" an employee because there's no ownership, and employees should be free to make their own decisions regarding their employment opportunities.

I'm not sure why OP was down-voted, you may disagree but his post was credible and merits a response.

Re: Welcome Chris Lattner

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Post by camus2 » Tue, Jan 10, 2017, 10:30 PM UTC

That was quick! Congrats.

Re: Welcome Chris Lattner

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Post by gtrubetskoy » Tue, Jan 10, 2017, 10:30 PM UTC

There's got to be more to this story. You don't spend years developing a language (Swift) as culmination of previous work (LLVM) and then abandon it for a job in a relatively new and different discipline. It doesn't make much sense to me.

Re: Welcome Chris Lattner

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Post by carlosdp » Tue, Jan 10, 2017, 10:30 PM UTC

chimeracoder wrote: post #17

carlosdp wrote: post #6

Wow, that was unexpected. Great hire by Tesla. Interesting move from compiler development to driving AI, though I guess for the VP position, his experience in managing those teams is much more important.

> Wow, that was unexpected. Great poach by Tesla. Tangential, but I really hate the term "poach" when referring to recruiting employees. We shouldn't think of hiring people as "poaching", because employees are not property. You can't "poach" an employee because there's no ownership, and employees should be free to make their own decisions regarding their employment opportunities.

Yea, I mean that's a good point, it is kinda a weird term. I don't mind changing it I guess.

Re: Welcome Chris Lattner

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Post by draw_down » Tue, Jan 10, 2017, 10:31 PM UTC

chimeracoder wrote: post #17

carlosdp wrote: post #6

Wow, that was unexpected. Great hire by Tesla. Interesting move from compiler development to driving AI, though I guess for the VP position, his experience in managing those teams is much more important.

> Wow, that was unexpected. Great poach by Tesla. Tangential, but I really hate the term "poach" when referring to recruiting employees. We shouldn't think of hiring people as "poaching", because employees are not property. You can't "poach" an employee because there's no ownership, and employees should be free to make their own decisions regarding their employment opportunities.

I agree, it's a distasteful term. People choose jobs according to what's best for them and "poaching" implies the employer's interests should matter more than that.

Re: Welcome Chris Lattner

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Post by Etzos » Tue, Jan 10, 2017, 10:34 PM UTC

salimmadjd wrote: post #20

I've met Chris and he is one of the nicest and humblest guy you can imagine. I'm not betting on him lasting in Tesla for more than 12 months. I think there will be a cultural conflict.

Could you explain why you think there will be a cultural conflict? Do Tesla engineers typically act in ways counter to being nice and humble?

Re: Welcome Chris Lattner

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Post by lawnchair_larry » Tue, Jan 10, 2017, 10:35 PM UTC

gtrubetskoy wrote: post #23

There's got to be more to this story. You don't spend years developing a language (Swift) as culmination of previous work (LLVM) and then abandon it for a job in a relatively new and different discipline. It doesn't make much sense to me.

There is, it's called seven figures worth of reasons.

Re: Welcome Chris Lattner

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Post by shadowfacts » Tue, Jan 10, 2017, 10:36 PM UTC

NKosmatos wrote: post #10

Another example of why Apple is going downhill... Macbook with less ports, copy&paste iPhone with no originality, imac/macpro with old CPUs :-(

Lattner had nothing to do with any of the things you listed.

Re: Welcome Chris Lattner

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Post by Angostura » Tue, Jan 10, 2017, 10:36 PM UTC

chimeracoder wrote: post #17

carlosdp wrote: post #6

Wow, that was unexpected. Great hire by Tesla. Interesting move from compiler development to driving AI, though I guess for the VP position, his experience in managing those teams is much more important.

> Wow, that was unexpected. Great poach by Tesla. Tangential, but I really hate the term "poach" when referring to recruiting employees. We shouldn't think of hiring people as "poaching", because employees are not property. You can't "poach" an employee because there's no ownership, and employees should be free to make their own decisions regarding their employment opportunities.

I hope you similarly dislike the term 'head-hunt' on the grounds that no-one's head is severed. 'Poach' is a useful metaphor that suggests that one company actively tried to lure an employee from another. It is a metaphor, it doesn't imply that the employee is a chattel. I think one can get a bit too precious about these things.

Re: Welcome Chris Lattner

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Post by devy » Tue, Jan 10, 2017, 10:37 PM UTC

freshyill wrote: post #7

Well, mystery solved. Now, the new mystery: What does this mean for Apple's car project? Yes, I realize he probably didn't have much (or anything) to do with it (whatever it really even is). There are going to be some batshit crazy theories though, and I can't wait to see how this affects Apple's stock price.

> Well, mystery solved.

That was a short mystery! :)