Woah, Fark still exists and looks almost exactly how I remember it 15 years ago
oh, hey, new strongbad email!
Fark NotNewsletter: Google farked us over
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#22Google lost a lawsuit in Germany a few years ago. Evidently German law says that if a customer reaches out to a corporation, that corporation must have a human respond.
It's not good enough (as google argued) to use an email auto-responder.
Not the best summaries but here is more information:
http://www.vzbv.de/sites/default/files/downloads/google-vzbv... http://www.computerworld.com/article/2497169/search/consumer...
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#23I have complex feelings about this. As a libertarian type I say one forces you to use Google (yes, I know they're by far the most effective ad network). I don't feel like their natural monopoly in search has hurt me much. Normally I would not see any reason for the US to get involved in GOOG's business.
On the other hand, I have seen Google do its very best to pervert the free market. Their name appears well over 300 times in the Obama White House guestbook and they support tons of liberal causes while slipping into bed with the three-lettered branches of federal government whenever it suits them. Diversity is every bit as important as Google preaches it. So where are their Filipinos, Samoans, Latinos, African Americans, and other persons of color?
Their contempt for paying customers like Fark is legendary. I have heard many, many stories like Fark's over the years. I personally know people put out of business this way. And I suspect Google puts their political thumb on many search results.
Because of this detestable level of hypocrisy, I say regulate the hell out them. Unlike Lavabit, they welcomed the government with open arms in lobbying efforts, committed gross violations of their customers' privacy, and have chosen to sequester tens of billions of dollars in taxes over three continents in a way that small businesses like mine never could.
Google loves the Feds so much? Throw them to the antitrust wolves.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nope. There really isn't, or if there is, it's niche dependent. To diversify away from Google, I've tried other ad providers and struggled to make 20% as much...
Header bidding will begin to cut into Google when it becomes more widespread. https://adexchanger.com/the-sell-sider/the-strategic-implica...
And then Google will start to treat publishers better.
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#25> Due to the way Fark was built, we are invisible to both SEO and Social Media traffic.
What does this mean? Clearly, they can't block anyone from sharing fark links on facebook and also, this: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Afark.com
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#26I have complex feelings about this. As a libertarian type I say one forces you to use Google (yes, I know they're by far the most effective ad network). I don't feel like their natural monopoly in search has hurt me much. Normally I would not see any reason for the US to get involved in GOOG's business. On the other hand, I have seen Google do its very best to pervert the free market. Their name appears well over 300…
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#27Isn't there enough competition within the ad industry to just switch to a different provider?
Google and Facebook basically split the market between them. Almost all growth goes their way. And Facebook doesn't have an on-page network. https://twitter.com/jason_kint/status/793562463119745024/pho...
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#28> Due to the way Fark was built, we are invisible to both SEO and Social Media traffic. What does this mean? Clearly, they can't block anyone from sharing fark links on facebook and also, this: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Afark.com
While fark.com may rank well, as a news aggregator the individual pages inside the site don't rank well. My site suffers the same problem: despite having thousands of pages of content, they all sit at the bottom of Google's results. So now I don't even bother to try to rank on Google and just use traffic from social media instead.
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#29It's free market, isn't it? Take it or leave it - nobody forces you to use Google ad network. ;). /s At this point I'm convinced that nothing but regulation can make those big companies - on which our digital lives are more and more dependent - to provide even a modicum of customer support. Right now they don't care, because they simply don't have to - a HN headline every other week doesn't create measurable losses,…
I never really understand why comments like this get downvoted. There seems to be love for the free market. That is until the free market goes against what I want. Then the free market sucks! What if FARK was another type of business. Say it is the corner 7-11[1]. They have been there for 18 years, and their major source of customers was the big factory next door. Factory decides to either move / redesign / whatever,…
In a free market, if a company breaks its Terms of Service with me I have the legal right to walk up and shoot every Employee and Shareholder of that company (No limited liability in a free market -- that's a government decree.)
Re: Fark NotNewsletter: Google farked us over
#30It's free market, isn't it? Take it or leave it - nobody forces you to use Google ad network. ;). /s At this point I'm convinced that nothing but regulation can make those big companies - on which our digital lives are more and more dependent - to provide even a modicum of customer support. Right now they don't care, because they simply don't have to - a HN headline every other week doesn't create measurable losses,…
I never really understand why comments like this get downvoted. There seems to be love for the free market. That is until the free market goes against what I want. Then the free market sucks! What if FARK was another type of business. Say it is the corner 7-11[1]. They have been there for 18 years, and their major source of customers was the big factory next door. Factory decides to either move / redesign / whatever,…
What people really want is a competitive market.