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LaTeX Coffee Stains (2009)

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Re: LaTeX Coffee Stains (2009)

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

has this become a community thing? Is it considered (by the community members) helpful? Yes to both. If it weren't, I doubt members would continue the practice. I find it useful to know that it may be something I've come across in the past. It also puts it in some context.

Have you considered this may be a form of cargo-cult? This editorializing of the titles is similar to communities that have higher-ups that are equal-but-more-so (mods) that suddenly because of their status decide that their view must be the right one. Mods adding the (publication year) is exactly like saying "hey, I've kind of read this, it's kind of old and you may (not) be interested in it because it's . I have no…

I personally find it useful for the reasons I gave above. Given that other members of the community sometimes complain that submissions aren't new or current, I think it's likely useful to them as well. Submission titles are also changed for other reasons in keeping with the guidelines, such as please use the original title, unless it is misleading or link bait.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Similarly, the "[pdf]" and "[video]" tags are included in the guidelines:

If you submit a link to a video or pdf, please warn us by appending [video] or [pdf] to the title.

It sounds like you don't find it useful, which is fair enough. Do you find it harmful or misleading in some way? If so, how so?

Edit to add: Parent updated with additional rationale:

Mods adding the (publication year) is exactly like saying "hey, I've kind of read this, it's kind of old and you may (not) be interested in it because it's . I have no idea of the real value of the text but the year may give you a clue".

I think you're reading too much into it. For me, it just puts the post into chronological context. It doesn't give me the impression that it's any less worthwhile to read. In some cases, the year provides additional interest, particularly if it's older.

Re: LaTeX Coffee Stains (2009)

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I looked for something similar but with red wine instead of coffee for my PhD thesis. It didn't exist so in the end I just used a scanned stain of red wine and the wallpaper package :).

Re: LaTeX Coffee Stains (2009)

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post #3

Love it! Any thoughts on supporting different shades too? I like extra cream.

Lian Tze created this handy variant if you prefer to give a different impression :) https://www.overleaf.com/latex/examples/latex-wine-stains/cd...

I feel like this package is more appropriate for the humanities than sciences. (I kid!)

Re: LaTeX Coffee Stains (2009)

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you considered this may be a form of cargo-cult? This editorializing of the titles is similar to communities that have higher-ups that are equal-but-more-so (mods) that suddenly because of their status decide that their view must be the right one. Mods adding the (publication year) is exactly like saying "hey, I've kind of read this, it's kind of old and you may (not) be interested in it because it's . I have no…

I personally find it useful for the reasons I gave above. Given that other members of the community sometimes complain that submissions aren't new or current, I think it's likely useful to them as well. Submission titles are also changed for other reasons in keeping with the guidelines, such as please use the original title, unless it is misleading or link bait. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Simila…

I understand complaints for "not new or current" if the reader is expecting hacker _news_. But unless the expectations changed too much in last years this site is not necessarily about _news_ as it is about _information_.

If the link is worth it then the year is irrelevant. If it's not worth it, the year won't save it. Thus, adding the year just satisfies our appetite for novelty.

Re: LaTeX Coffee Stains (2009)

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post #25

Yes! This would go wonderfully with LobLib, the Lobster library: https://github.com/bae43/LobLib/

I normally wouldn't pair seafood with coffee, though.

However, a tea stain or wine stain package would indeed pair nicely with LobLib, now wouldn't it?

Re: LaTeX Coffee Stains (2009)

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post #15
post #5

(2009)

Really? Why? EDIT: I see this terse comment (or rather, a comment with the form of) often, but since the articles are often javascript framework related, I just assume it's because that world keeps shifting. But, here, not so much. I don't see any guidance in the guidelines to denote the age of "timeless" publications. On the other hand, I saw somebody demand/request/suggest "(1912)" after an Edgar Rice Burroughs wor…

I personallu consider a yearstamp to be a decent disambiguation between "this is current news" v. "this is old news that's still interesting".

Re: LaTeX Coffee Stains (2009)

#29
post #22

I looked for something similar but with red wine instead of coffee for my PhD thesis. It didn't exist so in the end I just used a scanned stain of red wine and the wallpaper package :).

There is now a wine stains version too :) https://www.overleaf.com/latex/examples/latex-wine-stains/cd...

(although I like your workaround!)

Re: LaTeX Coffee Stains (2009)

#30
Excellent. I've been looking to write some papers in heptapod, and found that LaTeX was woefully not up to the task. This looks like a great starting point for future expansion; thanks!
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