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"Great Web Site, Pixar" -- Seriously?

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Re: "Great Web Site, Pixar" -- Seriously?

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Post by jcl »

joubert wrote: post #2

I'm thinking more along the lines of: Toy Story THREE ?

Have you seen Toy Story 2? It is actually a decent movie. It was originally slated to be a typical Disney direct-to-video sequel. But the Pixar guys didn't want to do substandard work, so they worked hard on the preproduction and managed to convince the Disney execs that it was worthy of a theatrical release.

Four years later, the story repeats itself: Disney's five-movie partnership with Pixar ends and Disney owns all the movie characters, so they decide to make a direct-to-video Toy Story 3 with their in-house studios. Then Eisner leaves, Disney buys Pixar, the Pixar guys are put in charge of Disney Animation Studios, and Toy Story 3 gets shelved so that it can be redone from scratch as a theatrical release by Pixar. Given the history, I expect that it, too, will be a decent film.

Re: "Great Web Site, Pixar" -- Seriously?

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Post by immad »

froo wrote: post #19
kiujhygfghjk wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the point is that Pixar is owned and manged by Jobs. It's a little like finding that MS-Bing doesn't work with IE8

*owned by Disney and managed by Jim Morris (he produced WALL-E) Although, you could argue that Catmull and Lasseter are more responsible for this than Jobs is...

From 86 to 2006 it was run by Steve Jobs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixar

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Post by matrix »

I don't know about everyone else, but I'm thinking Flash bashing has pretty much reached dead horse status. Possibly even "red smear on the ground" status.

Worrying about what the pundits say isn't going to help us execute, unless the pundit is someone with hard-won expertise and experience in what you're doing/building. Just pick the right tool for your product and market and run with it.

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Post by weego »

Pheter wrote: post #20
CoryMathews wrote: post #4

Goes to show that the Internet is still not ready to completely leave flash. All the more reason why Apple needs to get over themselves and support flash. Push HTML5 because yes it is better but support flash until it is no longer used.

Regardless of the whole Apple/Flash issue: Refusing to support older technologies helps encourage people to start using the newer technologies. If everyone dropped support for flash (obviously this wouldn't actually happen) then developers would be forced to use alternatives. If flash continues to be supported then developers have less of an incentive to replace their current solutions.

developers can only do what most people can experience well. HTML5 uses today are on sites where most people use a primary alternative, and most of these people have a vested interest (Youtube for market share on mobile devices, hearts and minds and also future for licencing technologies etc).

It would be an irresponsible developer that let loose with full HTML5 site aimed at "normal" people any time soon if they didnt provide a full standard HTML version as well, which begs a huge budget question. Unless they have no marketing department or CTO to answer to of course.

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Post by ergo98 »

On a serious note -- was John Gruber ever known for anything besides being a ridiculously biased Apple apologist?

I do remember reading his site and enjoying it in the past. Now...holy shit I can't stand it. It's like reading an eager hopeful of the politburo trying to impress the communist ranks. All credibility has long gone out the window.

Re: "Great Web Site, Pixar" -- Seriously?

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Post by locopati »

joubert wrote: post #9
locopati wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you could guarantee money from extending an existing franchise, wouldn't you? It's not like Pixar is releasing sequels every year or two for all their movies.

I was just commenting as a film lover.

As a fellow film lover, TS2 was enjoyable and I expect TS3 will be as well (in the sense that even the worst Pixar film is better than many other attempts at animated storytelling, at the very least in visual/audio quality).
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