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Creative Tim: Growing a side project into a $17k/month business

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Re: Creative Tim: Growing a side project into a $17k/month business

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Post by hueving »

emilburzo wrote: post #15
eugeneionesco wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Is everyone in Romania, and is that a living wage there? It's a very good living wage for Romania but low for what other IT people are earning, ~$2k monthly.

> It's a very good living wage It's a very good wage for _surviving_. After taking care of rent/utility bills there's not much left to go around for actually living.

>After taking care of rent/bills there's not much left to go around for actually living.

Are you implying rent/bills in Romania are $1k/mo?

Re: Creative Tim: Growing a side project into a $17k/month business

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Post by alexbanks »

kkt262 wrote: post #20
eugeneionesco wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Is everyone in Romania, and is that a living wage there? It's a very good living wage for Romania but low for what other IT people are earning, ~$2k monthly.

Why don't Romanians just get remote jobs?

Do you believe it to be that easy to get a remote job, such that all Romanians can simply just "get" one?

Re: Creative Tim: Growing a side project into a $17k/month business

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Post by antisthenes »

kkt262 wrote: post #20
eugeneionesco wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Is everyone in Romania, and is that a living wage there? It's a very good living wage for Romania but low for what other IT people are earning, ~$2k monthly.

Why don't Romanians just get remote jobs?

Why isn't everyone just born a rich programmer, so we can finally eliminate that pesky poverty and start enjoy the libertarian utopia?

Re: Creative Tim: Growing a side project into a $17k/month business

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Post by user5994461 »

hueving wrote: post #21
emilburzo wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's a very good living wage It's a very good wage for _surviving_. After taking care of rent/utility bills there's not much left to go around for actually living.

>After taking care of rent/bills there's not much left to go around for actually living. Are you implying rent/bills in Romania are $1k/mo?

The rent in UK (not London), Germany, France (not Paris), Italy, Spain, Portugal, etc... are under $1k a month.

Romania is eastern Europe. It should be way cheaper than that.

Re: Creative Tim: Growing a side project into a $17k/month business

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Post by ianai »

alexbanks wrote: post #22
kkt262 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why don't Romanians just get remote jobs?

Do you believe it to be that easy to get a remote job, such that all Romanians can simply just "get" one?

Jobs grow on trees after all /s

Re: Creative Tim: Growing a side project into a $17k/month business

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Post by tedmiston »

axelut wrote: post #11
rfrey wrote: post #3

I devour indiehacker's interviews and I love the transparency - thanks to both sides of the table. According to the numbers here, 42% of the 17,000 monthly revenues are spent on 6 people. That's $1190 per person per month if everyone is paid equally. Is everyone in Romania, and is that a living wage there? If not, how are your employees making ends meet? Edit: that last sentence sounds accusatory - I don't mean it to…

Glad that you like it! In Romania, the minimum monthly wage is 250$, then programmers start with 400$/month. Depending on experience and what they do inside a company they can grow to 2-3k/month in a couple of years. We are growing the salaries according to the experience and the position inside the company too. 100% of our employees started with 0 experience because it was their first job. Everything was learned ins…

Totally was not expecting the answer to be "yes".

Re: Creative Tim: Growing a side project into a $17k/month business

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Post by tedmiston »

kkt262 wrote: post #20
eugeneionesco wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Is everyone in Romania, and is that a living wage there? It's a very good living wage for Romania but low for what other IT people are earning, ~$2k monthly.

Why don't Romanians just get remote jobs?

I've noticed many of the dev marketplaces (even the more expensive ones) are dominated by international developers. It's definitely a popular path.

Re: Creative Tim: Growing a side project into a $17k/month business

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Post by elbear »

alexbanks wrote: post #22
kkt262 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why don't Romanians just get remote jobs?

Do you believe it to be that easy to get a remote job, such that all Romanians can simply just "get" one?

It's not easy, but you can do it. Source: I'm Romanian and I work remotely. I found the job here in the monthly Who's Hiring thread.

Re: Creative Tim: Growing a side project into a $17k/month business

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Post by emerongi »

user5994461 wrote: post #24
hueving wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>After taking care of rent/bills there's not much left to go around for actually living. Are you implying rent/bills in Romania are $1k/mo?

The rent in UK (not London), Germany, France (not Paris), Italy, Spain, Portugal, etc... are under $1k a month. Romania is eastern Europe. It should be way cheaper than that.

Rent most likely ~200, food ~100-200, misc ~100. You can get by with 300-500/month in eastern Europe, but you will have to monitor your expenses really closely. 300 if you live with friends/parents, cook at home and don't really do much else other than eat, sleep and work.

Get a decent apartment, have some fun in your free time and 1000 does turn into a "barely getting by"-wage. 1.5k-2k is comfortable wage, but median is around 500-600 in most of eastern Europe afaik.

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